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I'm not denying that gender dysphoria is a diagnosable condition. Indeed, I referred to its existence twice in my earlier comment. It's clearly a disorder that
by siland 5y ago
I'm not denying that gender dysphoria is a diagnosable condition. Indeed, I referred to its existence twice in my earlier comment. It's clearly a disorder that affects some people, even if the aetiology is currently unknown.
But consider what this diagnosis actually means: a strong desire to be the opposite sex. It's not the state of actually being the opposite sex, just a desire to be.
This remains the case even if the afflicted subject develops a belief that they are the opposite sex by way of a 'gender identity'.
- pseudalopex 5y agoWhat a gender dysphoria diagnosis actually means is they met 2 of 6 criteria.[1] A strong desire to be the opposite sex is just 1 of them. 2 if you believe gender just means sex. The gender and sex distinction is common even if you think it shouldn't be. It's hard to believe a biologist wouldn't know that. Don't misrepresent what trans people believe. [1] https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphoria/what-is-gender-dysphoria https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphori...
- siland 5y agoNitpicking the diagnostic criteria doesn't refute my main point, which was that desires and beliefs are not the same thing as actually being. When you get down to the biological reality of it, a male with gender dysphoria, or who claims a to have a female 'gender identity', is quite obviously not a woman.
- corobo 5y ago
- siland 5y agoNo, I didn't feel a jolt of anything. Your comment was unclear to me though - exactly what parts of my comment were you referring to with your claim of "more hypotheses stated as results", and why? Please be specific.
- corobo 5y agoMy goal was to try to help you see the harm you're doing, your goal is to.. whatever you're doing. I failed. That's on me. Don't worry about it.
- siland 5y ago
- corobo 5y ago
- siland 5y agoIf that's what it takes for you to save face after not adequately explaining your points, then sure, why not.
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