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Presumably you're a biologist or doctor, someone with the knowledge and certification to make the claim they're deluded? Psychologist maybe? Personally I think

by corobo 5y ago

Presumably you're a biologist or doctor, someone with the knowledge and certification to make the claim they're deluded? Psychologist maybe? Personally I think you're just trying to be offensive on your newly green account but if there's anything in there that actually wants to understand please do try to meet with and talk to the people you are diagnosing, it's really hard to hate a person when you know their story If nothing else consider it doesn't cost you a damn thing to be nice to someone. What's the point in tearing someone down? Is this really the person you want to be? It seems so tragic honestly

siland 5y ago
- corobo 5y ago
  In a world where animals are born with two heads, all sorts of fun diseases and deformities can happen, not to mention the whole range of mental issues a person can have.. is it not at least possible in your mind that sometimes there's a scenario that could cause a rift between the mind's software and the biological hardware? These are your opinions without scientific method. We can be nice and call them hypotheses if you want You claim to be a scientist, where's the science?
  - siland 5y ago
    I'm not denying that gender dysphoria is a diagnosable condition. Indeed, I referred to its existence twice in my earlier comment. It's clearly a disorder that affects some people, even if the aetiology is currently unknown. But consider what this diagnosis actually means: a strong desire to be the opposite sex. It's not the state of actually being the opposite sex, just a desire to be. This remains the case even if the afflicted subject develops a belief that they are the opposite sex by way of a 'gender identity'.
    - pseudalopex 5y ago
      What a gender dysphoria diagnosis actually means is they met 2 of 6 criteria.[1] A strong desire to be the opposite sex is just 1 of them. 2 if you believe gender just means sex. The gender and sex distinction is common even if you think it shouldn't be. It's hard to believe a biologist wouldn't know that. Don't misrepresent what trans people believe. [1] https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphoria/what-is-gender-dysphoria https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphori...
      - siland 5y ago
        Nitpicking the diagnostic criteria doesn't refute my main point, which was that desires and beliefs are not the same thing as actually being. When you get down to the biological reality of it, a male with gender dysphoria, or who claims a to have a female 'gender identity', is quite obviously not a woman.
    - corobo 5y ago
      - siland 5y ago
        No, I didn't feel a jolt of anything. Your comment was unclear to me though - exactly what parts of my comment were you referring to with your claim of "more hypotheses stated as results", and why? Please be specific.
        corobo 5y ago
        My goal was to try to help you see the harm you're doing, your goal is to.. whatever you're doing. I failed. That's on me. Don't worry about it.
        siland 5y ago

by corobo 5y ago

siland 5y ago

corobo 5y ago
In a world where animals are born with two heads, all sorts of fun diseases and deformities can happen, not to mention the whole range of mental issues a person can have.. is it not at least possible in your mind that sometimes there's a scenario that could cause a rift between the mind's software and the biological hardware? These are your opinions without scientific method. We can be nice and call them hypotheses if you want You claim to be a scientist, where's the science?
- siland 5y ago
  I'm not denying that gender dysphoria is a diagnosable condition. Indeed, I referred to its existence twice in my earlier comment. It's clearly a disorder that affects some people, even if the aetiology is currently unknown. But consider what this diagnosis actually means: a strong desire to be the opposite sex. It's not the state of actually being the opposite sex, just a desire to be. This remains the case even if the afflicted subject develops a belief that they are the opposite sex by way of a 'gender identity'.
  - pseudalopex 5y ago
    What a gender dysphoria diagnosis actually means is they met 2 of 6 criteria.[1] A strong desire to be the opposite sex is just 1 of them. 2 if you believe gender just means sex. The gender and sex distinction is common even if you think it shouldn't be. It's hard to believe a biologist wouldn't know that. Don't misrepresent what trans people believe. [1] https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphoria/what-is-gender-dysphoria https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphori...
    - siland 5y ago
      Nitpicking the diagnostic criteria doesn't refute my main point, which was that desires and beliefs are not the same thing as actually being. When you get down to the biological reality of it, a male with gender dysphoria, or who claims a to have a female 'gender identity', is quite obviously not a woman.
  - corobo 5y ago
    - siland 5y ago
      No, I didn't feel a jolt of anything. Your comment was unclear to me though - exactly what parts of my comment were you referring to with your claim of "more hypotheses stated as results", and why? Please be specific.
      - corobo 5y ago
        My goal was to try to help you see the harm you're doing, your goal is to.. whatever you're doing. I failed. That's on me. Don't worry about it.
        siland 5y ago