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The guy who thought maybe you could cure Covid by swallowing bleach? The same guy who was convinced he won the 2020 election on the logic that “it’s impossible

by jquery 5y ago

The guy who thought maybe you could cure Covid by swallowing bleach? The same guy who was convinced he won the 2020 election on the logic that “it’s impossible Biden would get more votes than me”. Yes, I sincerely do believe Trump is that stupid.

octopoc 5y ago
> The guy who thought maybe you could cure Covid by swallowing bleach? You have been misinformed. You should watch the video. I watched the video back when it happened and it was blatantly obvious he wasn't saying you could cure Covid by swallowing bleach. Unfortunately I can't find the video now but here's an article that lines up with my recollection of the events[1]: > The former President did not instruct people to drink bleach, but he did suggest that the use of disinfectants as a treatment should be researched. [1]: https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/677338a2 https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/677338a2
- kristjansson 5y ago
  Your source transcribes him as saying > Disinfectant knocks it out in a minute. Is there a way we can do something like that? By injection, inside, or almost as cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs. it would be interesting to check that, While the BBC[0] transcribes > And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? So it'd be interesting to check that. In popular relation 'injection' was rendered as 'swallow', which is indeed technically inaccurate. However 'suggested that the use of disinfectants as a treatment should researched' is a very, very generous interpretation of that sequence of words, and not the message that anyone watching that event walked away with. [0]: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52407177 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52407177
  - cout 5y ago
    When I watched the press conference, I did think Trump was suggesting we should spend research money on injecting disinfectant to cure COVID-19. I am not a biologist, but as I understand this is very naieve; at a high enough dose to kill the virus it would also kill the patient. I facepalmed, imagining billions of dollars spent on this on the president's whim; I am glad it didn't happen that way. Trump later said he was being sarcastic, which makes even less sense to me than anything he said or was accused of saying.
asteroidbelt 5y ago
> The guy who thought maybe you could cure Covid by swallowing bleach? He never said that or anything like that and we don't know what he was thinking. You are spreading fakes. In a thread about fakes. > I sincerely do believe Trump is that stupid. When left-wing media does the fact-checking, Trump indeed looks bleak.
- jquery 5y ago
  Hey look, you fact checked me and nobody got hurt and a misunderstanding was cleared up. Thanks for proving fact checking is a good thing. Indeed, genius Trump only suggested injecting bleach, not swallowing it.
  - asteroidbelt 5y ago
    > genius Trump only suggested injecting bleach This statement is still grossly misleading at best. (Especially because this lies about "drinking bleach" was actually spread by Joe Biden and repeated numerous times in left-leaning media.) What he said is he suggested to study it. Which is fine. He never "suggested" injecting it or drinking it. > nobody got hurt American democracy got hurt. People belief in system is reduced.
    - jquery 5y ago
      >What he said is he suggested to study it. Which is fine. He never "suggested" injecting it or drinking it. No, it absolutely is not fine for the President to spitball dangerous ideas like that on live national television. Even Trump later said he was being "sarcastic". Is that an appropriate moment to be sarcastic? Did he sound sarcastic at the time? I don't understand your reflexive defense of Trump. There's a million things to hang the guy for, this isn't like Obama and his tan suit or his dijon mustard.
      - asteroidbelt 5y ago
        > No, it absolutely is not fine for the President to spitball dangerous ideas like that on live national television. Maybe. This is topic for another discussion. For now it would be appropriate for you to admit you were wrong. Factually incorrect. > I don't understand your reflexive defense of Trump. I don’t defend Trump. I defend facts. > There's a million things to hang the guy for Perhaps you came to this conclusion after trusting fake news.

by jquery 5y ago

octopoc 5y ago

> The guy who thought maybe you could cure Covid by swallowing bleach? You have been misinformed. You should watch the video. I watched the video back when it happened and it was blatantly obvious he wasn't saying you could cure Covid by swallowing bleach. Unfortunately I can't find the video now but here's an article that lines up with my recollection of the events[1]: > The former President did not instruct people to drink bleach, but he did suggest that the use of disinfectants as a treatment should be researched. [1]: https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/677338a2 https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/677338a2

kristjansson 5y ago
Your source transcribes him as saying > Disinfectant knocks it out in a minute. Is there a way we can do something like that? By injection, inside, or almost as cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs. it would be interesting to check that, While the BBC[0] transcribes > And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? So it'd be interesting to check that. In popular relation 'injection' was rendered as 'swallow', which is indeed technically inaccurate. However 'suggested that the use of disinfectants as a treatment should researched' is a very, very generous interpretation of that sequence of words, and not the message that anyone watching that event walked away with. [0]: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52407177 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52407177
- cout 5y ago
  When I watched the press conference, I did think Trump was suggesting we should spend research money on injecting disinfectant to cure COVID-19. I am not a biologist, but as I understand this is very naieve; at a high enough dose to kill the virus it would also kill the patient. I facepalmed, imagining billions of dollars spent on this on the president's whim; I am glad it didn't happen that way. Trump later said he was being sarcastic, which makes even less sense to me than anything he said or was accused of saying.

asteroidbelt 5y ago

> The guy who thought maybe you could cure Covid by swallowing bleach? He never said that or anything like that and we don't know what he was thinking. You are spreading fakes. In a thread about fakes. > I sincerely do believe Trump is that stupid. When left-wing media does the fact-checking, Trump indeed looks bleak.

jquery 5y ago
Hey look, you fact checked me and nobody got hurt and a misunderstanding was cleared up. Thanks for proving fact checking is a good thing. Indeed, genius Trump only suggested injecting bleach, not swallowing it.
- asteroidbelt 5y ago
  > genius Trump only suggested injecting bleach This statement is still grossly misleading at best. (Especially because this lies about "drinking bleach" was actually spread by Joe Biden and repeated numerous times in left-leaning media.) What he said is he suggested to study it. Which is fine. He never "suggested" injecting it or drinking it. > nobody got hurt American democracy got hurt. People belief in system is reduced.
  - jquery 5y ago
    >What he said is he suggested to study it. Which is fine. He never "suggested" injecting it or drinking it. No, it absolutely is not fine for the President to spitball dangerous ideas like that on live national television. Even Trump later said he was being "sarcastic". Is that an appropriate moment to be sarcastic? Did he sound sarcastic at the time? I don't understand your reflexive defense of Trump. There's a million things to hang the guy for, this isn't like Obama and his tan suit or his dijon mustard.
    - asteroidbelt 5y ago
      > No, it absolutely is not fine for the President to spitball dangerous ideas like that on live national television. Maybe. This is topic for another discussion. For now it would be appropriate for you to admit you were wrong. Factually incorrect. > I don't understand your reflexive defense of Trump. I don’t defend Trump. I defend facts. > There's a million things to hang the guy for Perhaps you came to this conclusion after trusting fake news.