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I'm sorry, but I'm with Jason Kincaid on this one. http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/07/the-bombshell-that-wasnt-foss-patents-android-scoop-misses-the-mark/ http:/

I'm sorry, but I'm with Jason Kincaid on this one. http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/07/the-bombshell-that-wasnt-foss-patents-android-scoop-misses-the-mark/ http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/07/the-bombshell-that-wasnt-fo... There wasn't anything new in those documents. We already knew that Google only put out final releases and we already knew about lead phones. It was all public knowledge. That doesn't mean that it has no bearing on the case, but it's not revelatory.

mbrubeck 15y ago
Yes, and furthermore this has been their exact process since before Android 1.0 was released. They have never hidden this fact. We were discussing this on Hacker News half a year ago, and it wasn't news then, either: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2394151 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2394151
pushingbits 15y ago
I normally wouldn't touch anything that has Florian Mueller's name attached with a ten foot pole, and I certainly wouldn't bet any money on there being a connection between this theory and the settlement talks. On the other hand, that's not to say that I think it's impossible, but Mueller has been too far off the mark too many times. The real news here (as far as I am concerned) is that the judge has suggested settlement talks, which to me, in my legal ignorance, sounds like he thinks the case has some merit?
- keidian 15y ago
  Are you really implying that Mueller has ever been ON the mark? :p
- objclxt 15y ago
  Courts typically take a very dim view of parties that refuse to partake in mitigation or attempt to settle: they rightly view it as wasting the court's time, especially if the proposed settlement was near or exceeded what was eventually decided. This is usually true regardless of the relative merits of the case.
cbs 15y ago
Exactly. From the get-go the whole Open Handset Alliance was about coaxing the manufacturers/providers into a using a somewhat more-open product by creating a set of most favored nations. Its always been seen as a necessary evil from a consumer perspective to get widespread adoption of a real phone os.

mbrubeck 15y ago

Yes, and furthermore this has been their exact process since before Android 1.0 was released. They have never hidden this fact. We were discussing this on Hacker News half a year ago, and it wasn't news then, either: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2394151 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2394151

pushingbits 15y ago

I normally wouldn't touch anything that has Florian Mueller's name attached with a ten foot pole, and I certainly wouldn't bet any money on there being a connection between this theory and the settlement talks. On the other hand, that's not to say that I think it's impossible, but Mueller has been too far off the mark too many times. The real news here (as far as I am concerned) is that the judge has suggested settlement talks, which to me, in my legal ignorance, sounds like he thinks the case has some merit?

keidian 15y ago
Are you really implying that Mueller has ever been ON the mark? :p
objclxt 15y ago
Courts typically take a very dim view of parties that refuse to partake in mitigation or attempt to settle: they rightly view it as wasting the court's time, especially if the proposed settlement was near or exceeded what was eventually decided. This is usually true regardless of the relative merits of the case.

cbs 15y ago

Exactly. From the get-go the whole Open Handset Alliance was about coaxing the manufacturers/providers into a using a somewhat more-open product by creating a set of most favored nations. Its always been seen as a necessary evil from a consumer perspective to get widespread adoption of a real phone os.