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NBC gave it a big "NOPE" in their fact check: "The Claim Trump says Clinton 'acid washed' her email server. The Truth Clinton's team used an app called Bleach

NBC gave it a big "NOPE" in their fact check: "The Claim Trump says Clinton 'acid washed' her email server. The Truth Clinton's team used an app called BleachBit; she did not use a corrosive chemical." https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/785299709342654465 https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/785299709342654465 This was October 9, 2016. I have no love for the man, but like I said, we were never gonna get the media to be fair about him. Gosh, she did not use a corrosive chemical! SHEESH!

Traubenfuchs 5y ago
> we were never gonna get the media to be fair about him Never forget: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/05/11/politics/trump-time-magazine-ice-cream/index.html https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/05/11/politics/trump-time-magaz...
- at_a_remove 5y ago
  Watching grown adults freak out about that was just ... I know that history is full of otherwise reasonable people working themselves into a froth about something, and going from there to do whatever terrible things, but to watch it happen over such trivial items was chilling.
  - Traubenfuchs 5y ago
    It‘s called Trump Derangement Syndrome. disclaimer: I am European, I have no skin in the game here
tzs 5y ago
What do you think would be a fair way for the media to handle the "acid wash" claims? He doesn't seem to have been talking about BleachBit, because he said in his ABC interview on 2016-09-05 > I mean, she had her emails — 33,000 emails — acid washed. The most sophisticated person never heard about acid washing. Acid washing is a very expensive process and that’s to really get rid of them. and at a couple campaign events the next day > But why do you acid wash, or bleach, the emails? Nobody even heard of it before. Very expensive and > How about the 33,000 missing e-mails that were acid washed — acid washed. And Rudy was telling me, nobody does it because it’s such an expensive process. BeachBit is free software. There is nothing "expensive" about obtaining it, installing it, or using it. So what the heck was he trying to get at?
- at_a_remove 5y ago
  Do you honestly believe that Trump thought that Clinton or her proxies had subjected hardware or "emails" to bleach, acid, or any kind of corrosive or oxidizing agent? That is my question. Do you sincerely believe he thought that was what had happened?
  - jquery 5y ago
    The guy who thought maybe you could cure Covid by swallowing bleach? The same guy who was convinced he won the 2020 election on the logic that “it’s impossible Biden would get more votes than me”. Yes, I sincerely do believe Trump is that stupid.
    - octopoc 5y ago
      > The guy who thought maybe you could cure Covid by swallowing bleach? You have been misinformed. You should watch the video. I watched the video back when it happened and it was blatantly obvious he wasn't saying you could cure Covid by swallowing bleach. Unfortunately I can't find the video now but here's an article that lines up with my recollection of the events[1]: > The former President did not instruct people to drink bleach, but he did suggest that the use of disinfectants as a treatment should be researched. [1]: https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/677338a2 https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/677338a2
      - kristjansson 5y ago
        Your source transcribes him as saying > Disinfectant knocks it out in a minute. Is there a way we can do something like that? By injection, inside, or almost as cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs. it would be interesting to check that, While the BBC[0] transcribes > And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? So it'd be interesting to check that. In popular relation 'injection' was rendered as 'swallow', which is indeed technically inaccurate. However 'suggested that the use of disinfectants as a treatment should researched' is a very, very generous interpretation of that sequence of words, and not the message that anyone watching that event walked away with. [0]: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52407177 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52407177
johncena33 5y ago
This is a common tactic of left wing media. They use rhetorical tricks to mislead the audiences. Lab leak has been tarred as conspiracy theory because of political and financial gains through very dubious rhetorical tricks. [1] https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cruz-wuhan-tweet/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cruz-wuhan-tweet/ [2] https://www.snopes.com/news/2021/07/16/lab-leak-evidence/ https://www.snopes.com/news/2021/07/16/lab-leak-evidence/

Traubenfuchs 5y ago

> we were never gonna get the media to be fair about him Never forget: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/05/11/politics/trump-time-magazine-ice-cream/index.html https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/05/11/politics/trump-time-magaz...

at_a_remove 5y ago
Watching grown adults freak out about that was just ... I know that history is full of otherwise reasonable people working themselves into a froth about something, and going from there to do whatever terrible things, but to watch it happen over such trivial items was chilling.
- Traubenfuchs 5y ago
  It‘s called Trump Derangement Syndrome. disclaimer: I am European, I have no skin in the game here

tzs 5y ago

What do you think would be a fair way for the media to handle the "acid wash" claims? He doesn't seem to have been talking about BleachBit, because he said in his ABC interview on 2016-09-05 > I mean, she had her emails — 33,000 emails — acid washed. The most sophisticated person never heard about acid washing. Acid washing is a very expensive process and that’s to really get rid of them. and at a couple campaign events the next day > But why do you acid wash, or bleach, the emails? Nobody even heard of it before. Very expensive and > How about the 33,000 missing e-mails that were acid washed — acid washed. And Rudy was telling me, nobody does it because it’s such an expensive process. BeachBit is free software. There is nothing "expensive" about obtaining it, installing it, or using it. So what the heck was he trying to get at?

at_a_remove 5y ago
Do you honestly believe that Trump thought that Clinton or her proxies had subjected hardware or "emails" to bleach, acid, or any kind of corrosive or oxidizing agent? That is my question. Do you sincerely believe he thought that was what had happened?
- jquery 5y ago
  The guy who thought maybe you could cure Covid by swallowing bleach? The same guy who was convinced he won the 2020 election on the logic that “it’s impossible Biden would get more votes than me”. Yes, I sincerely do believe Trump is that stupid.
  - octopoc 5y ago
    > The guy who thought maybe you could cure Covid by swallowing bleach? You have been misinformed. You should watch the video. I watched the video back when it happened and it was blatantly obvious he wasn't saying you could cure Covid by swallowing bleach. Unfortunately I can't find the video now but here's an article that lines up with my recollection of the events[1]: > The former President did not instruct people to drink bleach, but he did suggest that the use of disinfectants as a treatment should be researched. [1]: https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/677338a2 https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/677338a2
    - kristjansson 5y ago
      Your source transcribes him as saying > Disinfectant knocks it out in a minute. Is there a way we can do something like that? By injection, inside, or almost as cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs. it would be interesting to check that, While the BBC[0] transcribes > And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? So it'd be interesting to check that. In popular relation 'injection' was rendered as 'swallow', which is indeed technically inaccurate. However 'suggested that the use of disinfectants as a treatment should researched' is a very, very generous interpretation of that sequence of words, and not the message that anyone watching that event walked away with. [0]: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52407177 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52407177

johncena33 5y ago

This is a common tactic of left wing media. They use rhetorical tricks to mislead the audiences. Lab leak has been tarred as conspiracy theory because of political and financial gains through very dubious rhetorical tricks. [1] https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cruz-wuhan-tweet/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cruz-wuhan-tweet/ [2] https://www.snopes.com/news/2021/07/16/lab-leak-evidence/ https://www.snopes.com/news/2021/07/16/lab-leak-evidence/