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> what could possibly compel you to encourage people of a certain political persuasion to move to a specific region so as to topple the existing, different-than
by vb6sp6 5y ago
> what could possibly compel you to encourage people of a certain political persuasion to move to a specific region so as to topple the existing, different-than-yours, popular political persuasion
My daughters' human rights as women supersede the misogynist wishes of Texas politicians
> why can't you and everyone that agrees with you politically find another state to take your political values to
I was raised to stand and fight for my rights. I don't need carpetbagging coastal elites like the Bushes telling me what texans want.
> what makes you think that your perspective on how things should be should matter more than the millions of people already living there, such that your ideal worldview should replace the existing popular one in a specific state, via interstate mass migration?
Texas has more democrats than republicans. My views align with the majority. Texas republicans are so terrified of democrats winning, they made it illegal to vote straight party line on ballots.
So I feel pretty god damn good telling people about the problems in this state and how they can be fixed.
- adamrezich 5y agolike your sibling poster, you didn't actually engage with the point I made repeatedly above, which is the mass-migration-to-achieve-political-change part. do you believe that this concept is generally justifiable and everyone should be encouraging it everywhere to further their own goals of political change? or just this one specific instance?
- vb6sp6 5y ago1. I'm not sure my original comment was "encouraging mass migration" 2. People are free to move anywhere they like for any reason 3. If people from Connecticut can move here and change our politics, I see no problem with others moving here to change it back. 4. If corrupt politicians can rig the game in their favor, getting more legitimate voters might be the only ethical way to counteract such brazen attacks on our republic 5. This isn't the "gotcha" you think it is
- josephcsible 5y ago> 1. I'm not sure my original comment was "encouraging mass migration" You literally said "We do need people to come to texas to flip it blue."
- adamrezich 5y agoI am not trying to "score points" or make "gotchas" here, I am genuinely engaging in honest discourse. I am unable to see how the sentence "We do need people to come to texas to flip it blue." can be interpreted as anything but literally "encouraging mass migration." as far as I can tell, Democrat voters encouraging mass migration of other Democrat voters to specific states that meet specific criteria is the only instance of this pattern of behavior that exists in the country right now, and I'm interested in digging deeper and trying to figure out why this is, where the ideological difference comes from. I don't think many people acknowledge that this is a core ideological distinction at play here, because it's difficult to imagine oneself as having the opposite worldview.
- vb6sp6 5y agoI gave several very specific examples of why people should NOT move to Texas. And I don't agree that democrats are the only ones doing this. Visit some firearms\guns message boards if you need some examples of conservatives encouraging other conservatives to move to make sure those dang demonrats dont take our guns.
- adamrezich 5y agoI would be very surprised if said message board posters were actively encouraging each other to move to California in order to sway gun rights laws there—let alone actually actively doing it in appreciable numbers.
- vb6sp6 5y ago> I would be very surprised if said message board posters were actively encouraging each other to move to California It happens. It's pie in the sky type of dreaming but it happens. Other states are def more targeted