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Oh, like these 12 year olds don't watch King of the Hill where the exact same words are mentioned. e: Do you see the black community in Texas agitating to ban S
by selimthegrim 5y ago
Oh, like these 12 year olds don't watch King of the Hill where the exact same words are mentioned. e: Do you see the black community in Texas agitating to ban Styron's Confessions of Nat Turner where the title character has an explicit fantasy of raping a white woman?
- hn_throwaway_99 5y agoHeck, the Virginia governor-elect cashed in on this "faux outrage" because a high school senior was so mentally injured by the book Beloved, one of the most regarded pieces of American fiction in the past 50 years.
- selimthegrim 5y agoI think there was a rape case in some high school bathroom that probably he got more mileage out of.
- j_walter 5y agoI think it was two rape cases by the same person at two different schools I believe...and that the first case was covered up and/or dismissed by the school admins.
- j_walter 5y agoWhy do some people feel that all college age kids needed a day off for mental health because Trump won an election or safe spaces because life is hard...but at the same time it's ridiculous that a high schooler was troubled by reading a graphic depiction of rape?
- cultofmetatron 5y agoagree that it was a little ridiculous to require a mental health day but Trump's presidency DID cause significant physical harm to a lot of people vs perceived mental trauma.
- IX-103 5y agoNot to mention the number of foreign national students who suddenly needed to reconsider their travel plans for the coming year (in light of Trump's promises regarding foreigners coming to the US).
- dashundchen 5y agoI mean, it could be flipped around to ask why do some people feel that we're infantilizing our young adults, but at the same time think we need to clamp down on any viewpoints or topics that could make a young person mildly uncomfortable? https://www.npr.org/2021/10/28/1050013664/texas-lawmaker-matt-krause-launches-inquiry-into-850-books https://www.npr.org/2021/10/28/1050013664/texas-lawmaker-mat...
- j_walter 5y agoYou need to define "we"...because that is part of the point. We as parents should be setting our kids up to deal with adult issues...schools should stick to learning the basics and not necessarily expanding the minds of middle schoolers with graphic books.
- IX-103 5y agoAnd what of those kids whose parents do not prepare them? Are they to be left behind? I view the responsibility of schools to provide at least the minimum needed for graduates to be contributing members of society. That means they need diverse perspectives of our society and history. Sometimes graphic or hyperbolic language may be necessary to force students to truly consider such perspectives, so I don't see such language in and of itself as a reason to ban something. Though such works should probably only be read with age-appropriate support.
- IX-103 5y agoI don't think they idea that children might be "troubled" by reading a book is what people are upset about. I think the fact that someone is using the possibility to that children may be "troubled" (in some undefined way) as a reason to raise such as fuss that the book is removed without following the normal processes. It's even expected that some books will make children uncomfortable. Good books reveal uncomfortable truths about people, society, or even ourselves. We do our children a disservice "protecting" them from such truths.