>let's be honest I really dislike that phrase. It comes off as arrogant, condescending - dismissing the quite real change that these drugs can foster when used

>let's be honest I really dislike that phrase. It comes off as arrogant, condescending - dismissing the quite real change that these drugs can foster when used with a productive intention, in a proper setting. Not everyone uses various substances for "fun". Some people use them to understand their existence better, or do help combat debilitating mental constructs and experiences.