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Snopes has never really been credible beyond their original domain of looking into urban legends and chain mail forwarded by your aunt and uncle. They are also

• tiahura 5y ago
  Why anyone ever took Snopes seriously for anything more important than wether Paul from the Wonder Years was Marilyn Manson defies comprehension.
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  • dundarious 5y ago
    Sure, not all of the output of the "fact checker" article mill has been awful. I think Trump was a bad guy who lied a lot (and Obama, and Bush, and on and on). I find it really obnoxious when these articles are really quite ideological and opinionated, but still use the verbage of "checking the facts". The thing I most take issue with is if something is "mostly false" because a public figure looked at an issue in a way that you don't think is the best way for society to look at an issue. That is an opinion, and to call it "fact checking" is pure ideology. And that is not to say that opinions are trivial or personal observations, less important than facts. There's a lot of bullshit in politics, and you'd be absolutely right and doing a service to call it all out as bullshit, and give your reasoning.
    • micromacrofoot 5y ago
      I think Trump was in a different league from past presidents, maybe not because of the magnitude of the lies (all of them have fairly big military lies involving life and death), but the frequency was astounding… I do not know how someone even functions like he does.
      • torbTurret 5y ago
        You can say the same about any big politician. The real difference was Trump’s immature demeanor, but make no mistake that Democrats are just as big of liars as Republicans.
        • solveit 5y ago
          Your garden-variety politician lies to further an agenda and it's usually clear what the agenda is in retrospect. Trump lied constantly for no discernible purpose, which either makes him a genius or an idiot depending on how highly you think of his abilities.
        • stjohnswarts 5y ago
          No one who has been President has even come within an order of magnitude in sheer number of lies coming out of his mouth per unit of conversation. He makes Nixon look like an honest guy. https://www.indy100.com/news/trump-tweet-lies-cnn-fact-checker-us-election-andy-mccabe-9710871 https://www.indy100.com/news/trump-tweet-lies-cnn-fact-check...
        • porknubbins 5y ago
          The weird thing about Trump’s lies was they weren’t really calculated to decieve people they were more like BS talking points as if we were in some pre-information age where whoever was the biggest bully won the argument.
      • mc32 5y ago
        The weird thing is he liked to fib a lot, as if he were talking to the construction crew talking shop. It was a lot of little things that didn't need making things up or exaggerating, yet he did. On the other hand Bush would lie about big things and didn't lie about the small things so much as just brush things off.
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  • stjohnswarts 5y ago
    You'll get downvoted for being pragmatic.