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I published this project a few minutes ago and I was about to do a "Show HN" for this project here. As soon as I submitted my "Show HN" post, my submission got

by susam 5y ago

I published this project a few minutes ago and I was about to do a "Show HN" for this project here. As soon as I submitted my "Show HN" post, my submission got redirected to this post and I realized that todsacerdoti beat me to it by a few seconds! In any case, thank you, todsacerdoti, for posting this here!

uncletaco 5y ago
Could you not inhibit the startup screen? I get wanting to have a "clean" setup but if anyone is using this there is a good chance they don't know emacs all that well already and links to the tutorial are good for them.
- susam 5y ago
  Sure! This is addressed in the line-by-line explanation where it mentions: > (setq inhibit-startup-screen t) > If you are a beginner to Emacs, you might find the startup screen helpful. It contains links to tutorial, manuals, common tasks, etc. If you want to retain the startup screen, comment this line out.
- daptaq 5y ago
  I think the point of a template is that you can change everything yourself, it is not a library you install with a package manager and are expected to leave alone. Given the good explanation of what is going on, I think disabling the about page is a fair decision.
- tptacek 5y ago
  You can also (use-package dashboard :ensure t :config (dashboard-setup-startup-hook)) To replace the startup screen with a list of recent files, bookmarks, and Projectile projects you've recently visited. Remember, though, that just like this document describes, a big part of Emacs is not running it repeatedly, but rather starting it just once and keeping it alive basically forever; you're only rarely going to see the startup screen if you're doing orthodox Emacs.
  - uncletaco 5y ago
    Assuming a person already has use-package or projectile installed is part of a larger problem tbh.
    - tptacek 5y ago
      In the sense that use-package should pretty clearly be bundled with Emacs by now, sure. You don't need Projectile installed to use dashboard (I barely use Projectile, and have it turned off in my dashboard thingy).
sokoloff 5y ago
Thank you for the line-by-line explanation! That’s incredibly helpful for new users and helpful even to moderately experienced users.
- ashton314 5y ago
  This. I learned a bunch from the why of a lot of the settings. Very nice!
lovelyviking 5y ago
Do you have advice about installing emacs without package manager/ compilation tools into the linux system that currently cannot have those and probably will not have those. I am looking for the easiest and safest way to do it . I do not want to break or brick the running arm based linux system. I do not want to interfere with it's main function but still want to be able to try emacs there. What is the best way to achieve minimal dependency setup? I am still relatively new to gnu/linux and I understand that I can unpack package let's say debian package and install each lib. manually but it seems like a big headache, is there any easier way? I am looking for something like copy everything into one directory without a need to register each lib in the system?
- stevekemp 5y ago
  If you're experienced you'd download and install all the dependencies, perhaps via "/opt", where a local package-manager would not interfere. But honestly? If you're new to using Linux then you should use the supported approach by your system. If you're running Debian, for example, "apt install emacs". If you're running CentOS "yum install emacs". Trying to do things outside the confines of the package-manager seems like an odd-constraint. I can appreciate it might make some sense, but when there are so many dependencies installed - fetching/building/installing them all one at a time is going to be very fiddly and annoying, even for a somewhat-experienced user.
  - lovelyviking 5y ago
    >But honestly? If you're new to using Linux then you should use the supported approach by your system. If you're running Debian, for example, "apt install emacs". If you're running CentOS "yum install emacs". Thank you for your advice. The system doesn't have package manager and installing one doesn't seem like safe option at least until I'll be fluent with what exactly package manager does. On debian machine I did what you've suggested. This is not debian nor CentOS. It's embedded solution. In such case it seems like easier to install only emacs. I've already installed some custom application with libs and it was a headache. I wrote my own custom application for it and there I just link statically everything I need to have less trouble with installing.
pfortuny 5y ago
Hi! Thanks a lot for this. I have an issue (on MacOS, not Linux) with trying to read pdf files from Firefox, as it only lets me set packed apps (.app) as commands to run for specific downloads. I have tried and tried and no solution is completely satisfactory (unlike linux, where I just set emacsclient and it works). Do you have any configuration for this on MacOS? Just in case. Thanks again!

by susam 5y ago

uncletaco 5y ago

Could you not inhibit the startup screen? I get wanting to have a "clean" setup but if anyone is using this there is a good chance they don't know emacs all that well already and links to the tutorial are good for them.

susam 5y ago
Sure! This is addressed in the line-by-line explanation where it mentions: > (setq inhibit-startup-screen t) > If you are a beginner to Emacs, you might find the startup screen helpful. It contains links to tutorial, manuals, common tasks, etc. If you want to retain the startup screen, comment this line out.
daptaq 5y ago
I think the point of a template is that you can change everything yourself, it is not a library you install with a package manager and are expected to leave alone. Given the good explanation of what is going on, I think disabling the about page is a fair decision.
tptacek 5y ago
You can also (use-package dashboard :ensure t :config (dashboard-setup-startup-hook)) To replace the startup screen with a list of recent files, bookmarks, and Projectile projects you've recently visited. Remember, though, that just like this document describes, a big part of Emacs is not running it repeatedly, but rather starting it just once and keeping it alive basically forever; you're only rarely going to see the startup screen if you're doing orthodox Emacs.
- uncletaco 5y ago
  Assuming a person already has use-package or projectile installed is part of a larger problem tbh.
  - tptacek 5y ago
    In the sense that use-package should pretty clearly be bundled with Emacs by now, sure. You don't need Projectile installed to use dashboard (I barely use Projectile, and have it turned off in my dashboard thingy).

sokoloff 5y ago

Thank you for the line-by-line explanation! That’s incredibly helpful for new users and helpful even to moderately experienced users.

ashton314 5y ago
This. I learned a bunch from the why of a lot of the settings. Very nice!

lovelyviking 5y ago

Do you have advice about installing emacs without package manager/ compilation tools into the linux system that currently cannot have those and probably will not have those. I am looking for the easiest and safest way to do it . I do not want to break or brick the running arm based linux system. I do not want to interfere with it's main function but still want to be able to try emacs there. What is the best way to achieve minimal dependency setup? I am still relatively new to gnu/linux and I understand that I can unpack package let's say debian package and install each lib. manually but it seems like a big headache, is there any easier way? I am looking for something like copy everything into one directory without a need to register each lib in the system?

stevekemp 5y ago
If you're experienced you'd download and install all the dependencies, perhaps via "/opt", where a local package-manager would not interfere. But honestly? If you're new to using Linux then you should use the supported approach by your system. If you're running Debian, for example, "apt install emacs". If you're running CentOS "yum install emacs". Trying to do things outside the confines of the package-manager seems like an odd-constraint. I can appreciate it might make some sense, but when there are so many dependencies installed - fetching/building/installing them all one at a time is going to be very fiddly and annoying, even for a somewhat-experienced user.
- lovelyviking 5y ago
  >But honestly? If you're new to using Linux then you should use the supported approach by your system. If you're running Debian, for example, "apt install emacs". If you're running CentOS "yum install emacs". Thank you for your advice. The system doesn't have package manager and installing one doesn't seem like safe option at least until I'll be fluent with what exactly package manager does. On debian machine I did what you've suggested. This is not debian nor CentOS. It's embedded solution. In such case it seems like easier to install only emacs. I've already installed some custom application with libs and it was a headache. I wrote my own custom application for it and there I just link statically everything I need to have less trouble with installing.

pfortuny 5y ago

Hi! Thanks a lot for this. I have an issue (on MacOS, not Linux) with trying to read pdf files from Firefox, as it only lets me set packed apps (.app) as commands to run for specific downloads. I have tried and tried and no solution is completely satisfactory (unlike linux, where I just set emacsclient and it works). Do you have any configuration for this on MacOS? Just in case. Thanks again!