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Your setup was WRT political bias, but your meme example was WRT the tedious manner in which they report conclusions. I've not experienced the political bias.

Your setup was WRT political bias, but your meme example was WRT the tedious manner in which they report conclusions. I've not experienced the political bias. Can you link some examples? We have a serious disinformation problem. In my experience, Snopes seems to be overwhelmingly accurate and to do much more good than harm on balance. The fact that they tediously present the facts before drawing a conclusion (per your meme) actually helps to mitigate any perception of bias.

missedthecue 5y ago
Here is an example of identical claims made by a conservative and democrat politician. https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6fed2339071d503d32e53144eb852dab.webp https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6fed2339071d503d32e531...
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- jodrellblank 5y ago
  Those aren't identical claims; "Canadian homes set thermostats to 0 in the winter of 1800" and "Canadian homes had no heating in the winter of 1800" are not saying the same thing. One says there was on balance no desire for federal tax income, the other says there was no way to have federal tax income whether or not it was desired.
- unclebucknasty 5y ago
  Well that's not Snopes. But, assuming we're taking these as identical claims (and they are not necessarily), I still don't think that necessarily reflects bias in any case. These were two separate fact checks about two claims worded slightly differently, spaced 3 years apart. They were performed by two different organizations, and also likely performed by different people. That they landed only a degree apart (mostly true vs half true) seems pretty consistent. Certainly doesn't seem like any kind of egregious bias.
- kristjansson 5y ago
  And they get roughly equivalent truth values, modulo Paul's slightly more misleading wording?
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lenkite 5y ago
"The unreliable 'facts' of a fact-checking site" https://archive.is/t6sDN https://archive.is/t6sDN

missedthecue 5y ago

Here is an example of identical claims made by a conservative and democrat politician. https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6fed2339071d503d32e53144eb852dab.webp https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6fed2339071d503d32e531...

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jodrellblank 5y ago
Those aren't identical claims; "Canadian homes set thermostats to 0 in the winter of 1800" and "Canadian homes had no heating in the winter of 1800" are not saying the same thing. One says there was on balance no desire for federal tax income, the other says there was no way to have federal tax income whether or not it was desired.
unclebucknasty 5y ago
Well that's not Snopes. But, assuming we're taking these as identical claims (and they are not necessarily), I still don't think that necessarily reflects bias in any case. These were two separate fact checks about two claims worded slightly differently, spaced 3 years apart. They were performed by two different organizations, and also likely performed by different people. That they landed only a degree apart (mostly true vs half true) seems pretty consistent. Certainly doesn't seem like any kind of egregious bias.
kristjansson 5y ago
And they get roughly equivalent truth values, modulo Paul's slightly more misleading wording?

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lenkite 5y ago

"The unreliable 'facts' of a fact-checking site" https://archive.is/t6sDN https://archive.is/t6sDN