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I think it can be implemented well: there will always be a point where reasonable people agree about what is correct. That point is obviously very, very conser

I think it can be implemented well: there will always be a point where reasonable people agree about what is correct. That point is obviously very, very conservative (lower case 'c'). Reasonable people can all agree that Covid is a thing that exists, for example. I don't mind Facebook fact-checking against flat-earthers, "it's just a flu bro", or "Bill Gates put 5g microchips in vaccines". Reasonable people from any place would agree those are counter-factual. But I tend to get banned from subreddits as an anti-vaxxer because, for example, I say my first 2 shots were Pfizer and I refuse to get Moderna for my third one (Moderna is the only one my government currently permits my age group to get). There are facts for and against this position for reasonable people to weigh. It's still often a ban on social-media for spreading anti-vax misinformation though.

mannanj 5y ago
There are always casualties to policies of "fact checking". You have witnessed yourself being one. I think it would have been nice to have some better policy or conversation in place for what happens when you become the one erroneously fact-checked, because instead what's happening now is it just happens in the shadows and by the time it happens to you it's too late and you're stuck with this system that actually just works counter-intuitively to the issues that are the most important to you. It's sort of like the slow eroding of freedoms and transition to fascism that people seem to be fine with because "protect us against COVID" which we're all fine with it until that policy is flipped on them and happens to impact them.
- newsbinator 5y ago
  That is the point I'm making: if we're conservative about what facts go into fact-checking, then fact-checking can be valuable. We are not conservative about fact checking and I gave an example of how I have been a casualty of this.
- mrtranscendence 5y ago
  > It's sort of like the slow eroding of freedoms and transition to fascism that people seem to be fine with because "protect us against COVID" Oh, come the heck on. I don't know how a reasonable person should be expected to take this seriously. We've been forcing people to vaccinate for a good long time now and I don't think I'm living in a fascist dystopia. Correct me if I'm wrong! Should I buy some jackboots so I can fit into my new reality?

mannanj 5y ago

There are always casualties to policies of "fact checking". You have witnessed yourself being one. I think it would have been nice to have some better policy or conversation in place for what happens when you become the one erroneously fact-checked, because instead what's happening now is it just happens in the shadows and by the time it happens to you it's too late and you're stuck with this system that actually just works counter-intuitively to the issues that are the most important to you. It's sort of like the slow eroding of freedoms and transition to fascism that people seem to be fine with because "protect us against COVID" which we're all fine with it until that policy is flipped on them and happens to impact them.

newsbinator 5y ago
That is the point I'm making: if we're conservative about what facts go into fact-checking, then fact-checking can be valuable. We are not conservative about fact checking and I gave an example of how I have been a casualty of this.
mrtranscendence 5y ago
> It's sort of like the slow eroding of freedoms and transition to fascism that people seem to be fine with because "protect us against COVID" Oh, come the heck on. I don't know how a reasonable person should be expected to take this seriously. We've been forcing people to vaccinate for a good long time now and I don't think I'm living in a fascist dystopia. Correct me if I'm wrong! Should I buy some jackboots so I can fit into my new reality?