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UK has all means to successfully use force, and secure its gains - that's the military reality on the ground. It has an amphibious force to land a division, mo

UK has all means to successfully use force, and secure its gains - that's the military reality on the ground. It has an amphibious force to land a division, more with requisitioned civilian vessels, and it has thermonuclear weapons to threaten chokepoints — more than enough to get the peninsula. UK is not a small military. With mobilised territorials, and first line conscripts, it will be as much as 10-12 divisions ready on short order.

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Moodles 5y ago
mrpopo 5y ago
This would be the worst course of action. The Chinese population is propagandized enough and won't hesitate to go to war head-on against the West.
- Moodles 5y ago
  It is an interesting question on how to deprogram the pro-communist party populous. All the brainwashed types I’ve ever spoken to believe the most insane things despite otherwise being intelligent people. E.g. Covid was made by the US to frame China. They also seem to conflate criticism of the CCP with Chinese people in general. I suspect many of the people behind the troll pro-China accounts commenting here are doing this (or they’re just paid). (Guys, CCP is anti-Chinese people. If you love China, don’t support this oppressive regime because one day they’ll come for you and your family.) How do we overdone this?
  - karmasimida 5y ago
    Try convince people vaccine is good/bad for them, you got a ticket for a ride already. Accept it is a fact that people who you thought is unreasonable thought precisely the same about you.
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    > All the brainwashed types I’ve ever spoken to believe the most insane things despite otherwise being intelligent people. This is a general problem, not limited to China. A good percentage of the world population is ready to believe just about anything, no matter how outrageous. Witness the whole COVID denial movement as one example. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-people-fall-for-conspiracy-theories/ https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-people-fall-for-con...
    - Moodles 5y ago
      Right, but China is a particular severe problem.
      - FpUser 5y ago
        Really, did you have chance to compare? When I read user comment section in CBC for example I loose all hope for humanity.
- mytailorisrich 5y ago
  Why do people think that Chinese nationalism is a result of communist propaganda? Why would it be wrong or unexpected for people to go to war if their country was attacked? The Chinese have seen their country invaded and sold piecemeal and have been striving to 'fight back' and to stand on their own two feet. That reaction started before the communist party was even created and the party is just an expression of it.
  - Jansen312 5y ago
    You can check with Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, Philipines and other SA countries. I don't see Chile being hostile towards Spanish or Americans. A lot of these countries have in common though. They have different form of government. Perhaps, trying to be peaceful and forgiving would go a long way than trying to be mecha-ultra-vibranium-wolf-eagle?
hypertele-Xii 5y ago
And risk world war 3, for Hong Kong? Never gonna happen.
jacquesm 5y ago
During the Yugoslavian war there was a stand-off between the Russians and some American troops around the Pristina airfield. "The following morning, Sunday 13 June, Clark arrived at Jackson's HQ in Skopje. It was pointed out to Clark that the Russians were isolated and could not be reinforced by air and that Russian support had been a vital part of getting a peace agreement; antagonising them would only be counterproductive. Clark refused to accept this and continued to order that the runway be blocked, claiming to be supported by the NATO Secretary-General.[2] Jackson refused to enforce Clark's orders, reportedly telling him "I'm not going to start the Third World War for you."[5] When again directly ordered to block the runway, Jackson suggested that British tanks and armoured cars would be more suitable, in the knowledge that this would almost certainly be vetoed by the British government. Clark agreed." What you are suggesting here is that the British would start World War III of their own accord and that Nato would follow them if they did so. Not a chance.
- bellyfullofbac 5y ago
  A trivia of this was that the British soldiers on the ground were led by future famous musician James Blunt. Headline is probably exaggerated, but: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/how-james-blunt-saved-us-from-world-war-3-2134203.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/how-james-blu...
throwaway4good 5y ago
You must be joking?! UK to retake HK by force?
stjohnswarts 5y ago
A land invasion by the Britain into China would be suicide in modern times lol. I have no doubt they are brave and talented soldiers and they would do some damage but in the end quantity has a quality all its own. NATO would not follow them into that madness.
FpUser 5y ago
I am all for it as long as you are in a front line. As far as I remember by your posts you are always itching for action. Do the world a favor. Put your money where your mouth is and sign up for active duty.

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Moodles 5y ago

mrpopo 5y ago

This would be the worst course of action. The Chinese population is propagandized enough and won't hesitate to go to war head-on against the West.

Moodles 5y ago
It is an interesting question on how to deprogram the pro-communist party populous. All the brainwashed types I’ve ever spoken to believe the most insane things despite otherwise being intelligent people. E.g. Covid was made by the US to frame China. They also seem to conflate criticism of the CCP with Chinese people in general. I suspect many of the people behind the troll pro-China accounts commenting here are doing this (or they’re just paid). (Guys, CCP is anti-Chinese people. If you love China, don’t support this oppressive regime because one day they’ll come for you and your family.) How do we overdone this?
- karmasimida 5y ago
  Try convince people vaccine is good/bad for them, you got a ticket for a ride already. Accept it is a fact that people who you thought is unreasonable thought precisely the same about you.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  > All the brainwashed types I’ve ever spoken to believe the most insane things despite otherwise being intelligent people. This is a general problem, not limited to China. A good percentage of the world population is ready to believe just about anything, no matter how outrageous. Witness the whole COVID denial movement as one example. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-people-fall-for-conspiracy-theories/ https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-people-fall-for-con...
  - Moodles 5y ago
    Right, but China is a particular severe problem.
    - FpUser 5y ago
      Really, did you have chance to compare? When I read user comment section in CBC for example I loose all hope for humanity.
mytailorisrich 5y ago
Why do people think that Chinese nationalism is a result of communist propaganda? Why would it be wrong or unexpected for people to go to war if their country was attacked? The Chinese have seen their country invaded and sold piecemeal and have been striving to 'fight back' and to stand on their own two feet. That reaction started before the communist party was even created and the party is just an expression of it.
- Jansen312 5y ago
  You can check with Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, Philipines and other SA countries. I don't see Chile being hostile towards Spanish or Americans. A lot of these countries have in common though. They have different form of government. Perhaps, trying to be peaceful and forgiving would go a long way than trying to be mecha-ultra-vibranium-wolf-eagle?

hypertele-Xii 5y ago

And risk world war 3, for Hong Kong? Never gonna happen.

jacquesm 5y ago

During the Yugoslavian war there was a stand-off between the Russians and some American troops around the Pristina airfield. "The following morning, Sunday 13 June, Clark arrived at Jackson's HQ in Skopje. It was pointed out to Clark that the Russians were isolated and could not be reinforced by air and that Russian support had been a vital part of getting a peace agreement; antagonising them would only be counterproductive. Clark refused to accept this and continued to order that the runway be blocked, claiming to be supported by the NATO Secretary-General.[2] Jackson refused to enforce Clark's orders, reportedly telling him "I'm not going to start the Third World War for you."[5] When again directly ordered to block the runway, Jackson suggested that British tanks and armoured cars would be more suitable, in the knowledge that this would almost certainly be vetoed by the British government. Clark agreed." What you are suggesting here is that the British would start World War III of their own accord and that Nato would follow them if they did so. Not a chance.

bellyfullofbac 5y ago
A trivia of this was that the British soldiers on the ground were led by future famous musician James Blunt. Headline is probably exaggerated, but: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/how-james-blunt-saved-us-from-world-war-3-2134203.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/how-james-blu...

throwaway4good 5y ago

You must be joking?! UK to retake HK by force?

stjohnswarts 5y ago

A land invasion by the Britain into China would be suicide in modern times lol. I have no doubt they are brave and talented soldiers and they would do some damage but in the end quantity has a quality all its own. NATO would not follow them into that madness.

FpUser 5y ago

I am all for it as long as you are in a front line. As far as I remember by your posts you are always itching for action. Do the world a favor. Put your money where your mouth is and sign up for active duty.