>I think most people are naive (even on HN) regarding compensation and negotiations. I think most people on HN are naïve as to how most companies outside of te

>I think most people are naive (even on HN) regarding compensation and negotiations. I think most people on HN are naïve as to how most companies outside of tech startups actually work. They have concrete pay scales, you get the bare minimum of that pay scale when you hire in, anything above that is from your annual merit based increase which is often at or below inflation. You can look at your co-workers and have a very good idea of what they make to the percent based on how long they've been in their role.