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> As j. b. crawford notes, the prospect for another federated, Internet wide communication system seem very remote at this point in time, so email is it. I rea
by Arathorn 5y ago
> As j. b. crawford notes, the prospect for another federated, Internet wide communication system seem very remote at this point in time, so email is it.
I really don’t think this is true, and is defeatist at best. SIP and XMPP both had a good shot at creating a federated Internet-wide communication system, and we are doing our best to build one with Matrix or die trying.
- zaik 5y agoWhat's wrong with XMPP except Google decided to shut their instance down?
- MattJ100 5y agoNothing. XMPP has an active community, mature servers for every kind of deployment, and many clients under active development for a range of platforms. My personal focus within the community these days is with improving the ecosystem UX through initiatives like https://docs.modernxmpp.org/ https://docs.modernxmpp.org/ You can follow XMPP development via the community newsletter (email or RSS): https://xmpp.org/newsletter/ https://xmpp.org/newsletter/
- upofadown 5y agoA short message instant messaging system can not replace a long message offline capable system like email. They are fundamentally different things. The achievable security is significantly higher for an offline capable medium for example: * https://articles.59.ca/doku.php?id=em:emailvsim https://articles.59.ca/doku.php?id=em:emailvsim It is clear to me at least that we are stuck with at least 2 problems here. I have wondered if you could at least generalize the two modes in a way that would allow you to have one client and let the user decide.
- rakoo 5y agoBoth Matrix and XMPP can be used as instant messengers and asynchronous long-form messengers. They both have asynchronous encryption, and have had it for years now.
- sneak 5y agoMatrix is crap, though, and doesn't solve any new problems.