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I already mentioned before : backup and restore 101. But then again, why would anyone be afraid of googling killing their project? I think it's more realistic

I already mentioned before : backup and restore 101. But then again, why would anyone be afraid of googling killing their project? I think it's more realistic that AWS will boot off Chivo wallet from their services than any of my projects would be kicked out by a provider. I would be more worried of my computer getting hacked and my wallet too. Or the exchange getting hacked or them doing a cash-grab. https://rekt.news https://rekt.news - it really is the wild wild West

ArbVision 5y ago
Also, if your argument is being worry about getting hacked, you are going to love Coinbase NFTs that do everything for you, no self-custody. I'm open to arguments against NFTs, but these arguments are quite poor.
- NicoJuicy 5y ago
  Who says I'm worried for me? I got out in 2017 and couldn't care less. What i am worried about, is for non-technical people getting duped ( which i already witnessed a couple of times) or if tether collapses ( for them ). Since they don't realize any of the risks. Talking about poor arguments. You do realize that you are contradicting yourselve by proposed a company as a fix here and your twitter threat opposing them?
  - ArbVision 5y ago
    “ I would be more worried of my computer getting hacked and my wallet too.” You said this statement. This debate is devolving. You are confusing NFTs with things built on top of them like market places. I give it two years ish and I’ll come back and you will own a handful of various NFTs. Look forward to coming back to this.
    - NicoJuicy 5y ago
      I was talking about others that I've seen hurt because of "0 knowledge". Those that won't use an offline wallet. --- Fyi, don't bet too much on it. When the pandemic is over, i think the gradual decline of crypto will start again. If they happens, it will take most of these projects with it. Including your NFT dreams :)
      - ArbVision 5y ago
        This won't age well. Look forward to coming to back it. Good chatting, thank you.
        NicoJuicy 5y ago
        Won't matter to me. I already took my share in 2017. I hope you're not too vested in it ;), underlying tech has never been a differentiator in real-world applications. Facebook uses PHP :)! Till then! Looking forward to it too in 2023-2024.
ArbVision 5y ago
The backup & restore is a strawman argument. I'm not arguing the data is gone. And why would anyone be afraid of google killing your project.. You just made the point and linked OpenSea deslisting projects... How about referring you back the same link you sent me? List of reasons: "infringe on protected intellectual property, promote suicide or self-harm, incite hate or violence against others, degrade or dox another individual, otherwise violate our terms of service."
- NicoJuicy 5y ago
  You're entire thread concluded with: NFT's are owned by the people. My point was that it doesn't matter, since people will use companies and companies have to enforce rules.
  - ArbVision 5y ago
    You're misinterpreting the main point I'm making. It's not that I don't want Google vs blockchain cause I'm afraid of delistings or something. My main thought experiment is with an artist who is established and wouldn't get delisted. It's about the fact that humans have come together to decide this is what digital ownership means - it's on a distributed database and not by a company. Maybe there is a world in which Google was the oracle of NFTs, but in our world, society has agreed on blockchain.
    - NicoJuicy 5y ago
      I am sure that society in our world would call you delusional if you used that argument in front of a judge for copyright infringement of a Mickey Mouse NFT for example. I already discussed that recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29715994 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29715994
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ArbVision 5y ago

Also, if your argument is being worry about getting hacked, you are going to love Coinbase NFTs that do everything for you, no self-custody. I'm open to arguments against NFTs, but these arguments are quite poor.

NicoJuicy 5y ago
Who says I'm worried for me? I got out in 2017 and couldn't care less. What i am worried about, is for non-technical people getting duped ( which i already witnessed a couple of times) or if tether collapses ( for them ). Since they don't realize any of the risks. Talking about poor arguments. You do realize that you are contradicting yourselve by proposed a company as a fix here and your twitter threat opposing them?
- ArbVision 5y ago
  “ I would be more worried of my computer getting hacked and my wallet too.” You said this statement. This debate is devolving. You are confusing NFTs with things built on top of them like market places. I give it two years ish and I’ll come back and you will own a handful of various NFTs. Look forward to coming back to this.
  - NicoJuicy 5y ago
    I was talking about others that I've seen hurt because of "0 knowledge". Those that won't use an offline wallet. --- Fyi, don't bet too much on it. When the pandemic is over, i think the gradual decline of crypto will start again. If they happens, it will take most of these projects with it. Including your NFT dreams :)
    - ArbVision 5y ago
      This won't age well. Look forward to coming to back it. Good chatting, thank you.
      - NicoJuicy 5y ago
        Won't matter to me. I already took my share in 2017. I hope you're not too vested in it ;), underlying tech has never been a differentiator in real-world applications. Facebook uses PHP :)! Till then! Looking forward to it too in 2023-2024.

ArbVision 5y ago

The backup & restore is a strawman argument. I'm not arguing the data is gone. And why would anyone be afraid of google killing your project.. You just made the point and linked OpenSea deslisting projects... How about referring you back the same link you sent me? List of reasons: "infringe on protected intellectual property, promote suicide or self-harm, incite hate or violence against others, degrade or dox another individual, otherwise violate our terms of service."

NicoJuicy 5y ago
You're entire thread concluded with: NFT's are owned by the people. My point was that it doesn't matter, since people will use companies and companies have to enforce rules.
- ArbVision 5y ago
  You're misinterpreting the main point I'm making. It's not that I don't want Google vs blockchain cause I'm afraid of delistings or something. My main thought experiment is with an artist who is established and wouldn't get delisted. It's about the fact that humans have come together to decide this is what digital ownership means - it's on a distributed database and not by a company. Maybe there is a world in which Google was the oracle of NFTs, but in our world, society has agreed on blockchain.
  - NicoJuicy 5y ago
    I am sure that society in our world would call you delusional if you used that argument in front of a judge for copyright infringement of a Mickey Mouse NFT for example. I already discussed that recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29715994 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29715994

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