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"Everything they told us about Communism was a lie. Unfortunately, everything they told us about Capitalism was true." - Common joke across the former Warsaw P
by deanCommie 5y ago
"Everything they told us about Communism was a lie. Unfortunately, everything they told us about Capitalism was true."
- Common joke across the former Warsaw Pact countries after the fall of the wall and the reopening of information access.
Soviet Propaganda didn't need to lie about the west - they reported the truth, just the subset of the truth that presents the desired impact. Good Propaganda does this even to this day. When the Russians hack both the RNC and the DNC, but only leak the Democratic National Convention secret files to WikiLeaks, it's the same thing.
- dotancohen 5y ago> they reported the truth, just the subset of the truth that presents the desired impact. As an Israeli, I see this method used to disparage my nation very often. You might be interested in this Writing.SE question which addresses this tactic: https://writing.stackexchange.com/questions/54002/how-to-effectively-demonstrate-the-incorrectness-of-a-factual-yet-biased-work https://writing.stackexchange.com/questions/54002/how-to-eff...
- helge9210 5y agoAs an Israeli I must point out that the very same method is used by us. "Our freedom fighters protecting the land of our fathers from their terrorists" can be used by both sides without any modifications.
- dotancohen 5y agoI do not recall any major Israeli news outlets obviously cherry-picking facts to present to our 7 million Jewish citizens. Other than Haaretz, which would be presenting events in a fashion designed to embarrass us - quite the opposite of your claim. However, examples abound of international news agencies presenting cherry-picked facts to disparage Israel in international news.
- guiriduro 5y agoHaving a sprawling extraterritorial landtheft entity you call a country with concentration camps and constituted by dispossession and apartheid is rather hard to hide or spin.
- dotancohen 5y agoYour opinion is directly influenced by the extremely effective methods of propaganda currently under discussion. Thank you for making the point as clear.
- helge9210 5y agoAvoiding embarrassing facts is one of the examples.
- dotancohen 5y agoOf course, show me a nation on Earth that does not have embarrassing facts. Maybe Finland or Switzerland qualify. Certainly no other European or Western nation.
- helge9210 5y agoHaving embarrassing facts is not a problem. Hiding/omitting them is.
- dotancohen 5y agoAlright then, please show me any nation whose embarrassing parts of history are more widely paraded around in public than that of Israel.
- helge9210 5y agoGermany?
- DonHopkins 5y agoReminds me of some old jokes from the War on Drugs: PCP: The only drug that everything the government tells you about it is true. Cocaine: It makes me feel like a new man. And he wants some, too! Q: What did the Dead Head say when he ran out of marijuana? A: Hey, this music sucks! Q: Why did the Hippie go to Santa Cruz? A: He heard there weren't any jobs there.