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> Most Tor traffic isn’t malicious The link here is just to a survey of Tor users, based on self-reporting. Pretty dubious methodology. Beyond that, even if on
by mullingitover 5y ago
> Most Tor traffic isn’t malicious
The link here is just to a survey of Tor users, based on self-reporting. Pretty dubious methodology. Beyond that, even if only a minority of the traffic is malicious it's not with the trouble for the ISP.
- onphonenow 5y agoIs this actually true? Most traffic I've seen on my own sites when I had them from tor WAS malicious. Ie, it was a pretty easy call to block tor. Maybe the big sites like wikipedia / cloudflare etc have less trouble with tor abuse, but for small sites - very annoying to deal with tor users.
- robbedpeter 5y agoThe isp shouldn't have any knowledge of, or care for the traffic being transmitted over their lines. Surveillance is an evil on its own. In the case of Tor, it means the ISP actually cannot know what the traffic is, without nation state resources, so any preemptive exclusion of Tor traffic is a prejudicial judgement by the isp, or them being upset about not being able to spy on the customer.
- wmf 5y agoThat's fine to say until a customer paying <$100/month generates $10,000 in legal fees. For Tor exits, the traffic is unencrypted so the ISP will see it... and be held responsible.
- robbedpeter 5y agoIf the isp doesn't snoop traffic or keep records, they're not liable. They can keep a generic reply with a fill in the blanks response signed off by their lawyer.