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A problem I see with parents in general and not just personality disorder types, which is reinforced by the state and scientists, is this subconscious bias that

A problem I see with parents in general and not just personality disorder types, which is reinforced by the state and scientists, is this subconscious bias that kids are the property of their parents. It needs to stop. Kids are like AI they learn from the environment around them and prison populations are in part an example of the failed parenting, state and scientific direction, but as usual State officials and scientists never get held to account when they should only the parent. Add in different belief systems and you have a recipe for disaster which constantly unfurls to one degree or another day in day out. ad nauseum. And all the while the planet still keeps being more and more over populated. Its like fiddling at the seams whilst Rome burns.

Lammy 5y ago
I was with you until that last part. Sorry I'm not really willing to believe John D. Rockefeller Ⅲ and co. could have my best interest in mind when talking about how we should maintain humanity under half a billion in perpetual balance with nature. Sounds more like a world where they will own everything and there will never be enough of "the rest of us" to effectively demand equality https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED050960.pdf#page=10 https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED050960.pdf#page=10
- Terry_Roll 5y ago
  Are you aware of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink ? Clockwork Orange, Rat Utopia as other examples? I dont care to a certain extent because it will end with war OR sickness and poverty, if people are not forced to live within their means and make the best of what they are given. I'd like to see euthanisia become legal so we dont have to be experimented on by scientists who have the audacity to think its acceptable, just like I dont agree with Govt who have the audacity to think they can control our lives through legislation and all that. In the 70's there was a Eugenicist movement in the West which lost out to the current thinking, but here in the UK the NHS was performing medical operations like tying the tubes of woman after 1/2/3 kids to stop their from having more. Obviously there is the female contraceptive pill which has helped reduce number sizes. This is eye watering! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_the_most_children#Mothers_and_couples https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_the_most_c... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_the_most_children#Fathers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_the_most_c... You could say the Eugenicist movement has become more persuasive today. We have also had to have our health impaired to make us more docile and to reduce our breeding abilities whilst also increasing the risk of cancer, to the point that something like 50% of the UK population will get cancer in their lifetime here in the UK. TF the NHS is free! I bet Josef Mengele is kicking himself for being too obvious! Inflation is also stalking the planet right now, its getting more expensive to live, now whilst various central banks can print monkey tokens to keep the natives happy, inventing an excuse or two to print more like Quantative Easing helps keep people in the game and Govt's can invent bureaucracy to keep people busier. I'm also aware that in the West its been cheaper to offshore some jobs to parts of the world with lower labour costs. That last point may or may not also entail poorer working conditions like we see with Foxconn and Apple. Now its also clear that we have a form of global communism imposed on us by global business giants under the guise of global capitalism only its not a govt but a board doing the communism bit limiting our choices of what we can spend money on. What govt would want to distance themselves from domains previously under their control like telecoms spying? But in all of this, there is a new entrant, artificial intelligence, chipping away at the middle class jobs and some working class manual labour jobs which has opened up a new angle of attack that previously hadnt existed in human history. Now its doing three things, its improving quality like we see with robots building German cars and its also forcing Govt to get creative with their bureaucracy which is why the security services "hack" via these global entities with court orders. Muddying the waters to keep us busy. Bread and Circuses been going on since Roman times and all that. Its also discovering new attack vectors for all sorts of areas of life, but its also undermining the pillars of society authority namely the State and religion.
  - ClumsyPilot 5y ago
    "we have a form of global communism imposed on us by global business giants under the guise of global capitalism" Dear Americans Can you please stop calling everything 'Communist'? Now we have articles by BBC 'is the Pope communist', you have posters 'Race mixing is communism', 'climate change is communist'. What is this, communism of the brain? Do you not have other words? Chairman Mao didn't invest 'global business', you own this problem lock, stock and barrel.
    - jbotz 5y ago
      You know that the BBC is not American, right? It's the British Broadcasting Company. Could you please stop calling all English-speakers Americans? ;-)
      - ClumsyPilot 5y ago
        I know, I know, but UK media tends to emulate the US one at times. For a national broadcaster to compare the pope to communist leaders - I mean thats an outrageous and illiterate comparison.
    - avs733 5y ago
      I think my two favorite examples of this from personal experience are when people have said to me: - Marxism is communist! - the Nazis we’re communist! What you are noting is something I find really personally interesting. We like to think otherwise but words are very socially defined. What you’re describing isn’t people referencing an actual definition of communism. It’s more akin to a pointer for “bad”. Communism has been maligned in the US for so long and the label of communist/m has so long been used to malign other things (labor rights) that it is not used to refer to the economic theory in the general patience. It’s basically just a mother word for “bad” often specific to something someone perceived as related to power and economics but can’t describe. Socialism is the new version. The demands of “keep the government out of my government run healthcare” from a few years back is telling.
      - 5y ago
77pt77 5y ago
> is this subconscious bias that kids are the property of their parents. Nothing exemplifies this better than the cliche > I gave you life. I can take it away.
- Terry_Roll 5y ago
- hinkley 5y ago
  Sidney Poitier, "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?" One of the best parental tell-offs ever recorded on film: You listen to me. You say you don't want to tell me how to live my life. So what do you think you've been doing? You tell me what rights I've got or haven't got, and what I owe to you for what you've done for me. Let me tell you something. I owe you nothing! If you carried that bag a million miles, you did what you're supposed to do! Because you brought me into this world. And from that day you owed me everything you could ever do for me like I will owe my son if I ever have another. But you don't own me! You can't tell me when or where I'm out of line, or try to get me to live my life according to your rules. You don't even know what I am, Dad, you don't know who I am. You don't know how I feel, what I think. And if I tried to explain it the rest of your life you will never understand. You are 30 years older than I am. You and your whole lousy generation believes the way it was for you is the way it's got to be. And not until your whole generation has lain down and died will the dead weight of you be off our backs! You understand, you've got to get off my back! Dad... Dad, you're my father. I'm your son. I love you. I always have and I always will. But you think of yourself as a colored man. I think of myself as a man. Now, I've got a decision to make, hm? And I've got to make it alone, and I gotta make it in a hurry. So would you go out there and see after my mother?
  - 77pt77 5y ago
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbv41abhC3c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbv41abhC3c For those interested.

Lammy 5y ago

I was with you until that last part. Sorry I'm not really willing to believe John D. Rockefeller Ⅲ and co. could have my best interest in mind when talking about how we should maintain humanity under half a billion in perpetual balance with nature. Sounds more like a world where they will own everything and there will never be enough of "the rest of us" to effectively demand equality https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED050960.pdf#page=10 https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED050960.pdf#page=10

Terry_Roll 5y ago
Are you aware of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink ? Clockwork Orange, Rat Utopia as other examples? I dont care to a certain extent because it will end with war OR sickness and poverty, if people are not forced to live within their means and make the best of what they are given. I'd like to see euthanisia become legal so we dont have to be experimented on by scientists who have the audacity to think its acceptable, just like I dont agree with Govt who have the audacity to think they can control our lives through legislation and all that. In the 70's there was a Eugenicist movement in the West which lost out to the current thinking, but here in the UK the NHS was performing medical operations like tying the tubes of woman after 1/2/3 kids to stop their from having more. Obviously there is the female contraceptive pill which has helped reduce number sizes. This is eye watering! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_the_most_children#Mothers_and_couples https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_the_most_c... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_the_most_children#Fathers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_the_most_c... You could say the Eugenicist movement has become more persuasive today. We have also had to have our health impaired to make us more docile and to reduce our breeding abilities whilst also increasing the risk of cancer, to the point that something like 50% of the UK population will get cancer in their lifetime here in the UK. TF the NHS is free! I bet Josef Mengele is kicking himself for being too obvious! Inflation is also stalking the planet right now, its getting more expensive to live, now whilst various central banks can print monkey tokens to keep the natives happy, inventing an excuse or two to print more like Quantative Easing helps keep people in the game and Govt's can invent bureaucracy to keep people busier. I'm also aware that in the West its been cheaper to offshore some jobs to parts of the world with lower labour costs. That last point may or may not also entail poorer working conditions like we see with Foxconn and Apple. Now its also clear that we have a form of global communism imposed on us by global business giants under the guise of global capitalism only its not a govt but a board doing the communism bit limiting our choices of what we can spend money on. What govt would want to distance themselves from domains previously under their control like telecoms spying? But in all of this, there is a new entrant, artificial intelligence, chipping away at the middle class jobs and some working class manual labour jobs which has opened up a new angle of attack that previously hadnt existed in human history. Now its doing three things, its improving quality like we see with robots building German cars and its also forcing Govt to get creative with their bureaucracy which is why the security services "hack" via these global entities with court orders. Muddying the waters to keep us busy. Bread and Circuses been going on since Roman times and all that. Its also discovering new attack vectors for all sorts of areas of life, but its also undermining the pillars of society authority namely the State and religion.
- ClumsyPilot 5y ago
  "we have a form of global communism imposed on us by global business giants under the guise of global capitalism" Dear Americans Can you please stop calling everything 'Communist'? Now we have articles by BBC 'is the Pope communist', you have posters 'Race mixing is communism', 'climate change is communist'. What is this, communism of the brain? Do you not have other words? Chairman Mao didn't invest 'global business', you own this problem lock, stock and barrel.
  - jbotz 5y ago
    You know that the BBC is not American, right? It's the British Broadcasting Company. Could you please stop calling all English-speakers Americans? ;-)
    - ClumsyPilot 5y ago
      I know, I know, but UK media tends to emulate the US one at times. For a national broadcaster to compare the pope to communist leaders - I mean thats an outrageous and illiterate comparison.
  - avs733 5y ago
    I think my two favorite examples of this from personal experience are when people have said to me: - Marxism is communist! - the Nazis we’re communist! What you are noting is something I find really personally interesting. We like to think otherwise but words are very socially defined. What you’re describing isn’t people referencing an actual definition of communism. It’s more akin to a pointer for “bad”. Communism has been maligned in the US for so long and the label of communist/m has so long been used to malign other things (labor rights) that it is not used to refer to the economic theory in the general patience. It’s basically just a mother word for “bad” often specific to something someone perceived as related to power and economics but can’t describe. Socialism is the new version. The demands of “keep the government out of my government run healthcare” from a few years back is telling.
    - 5y ago

77pt77 5y ago

> is this subconscious bias that kids are the property of their parents. Nothing exemplifies this better than the cliche > I gave you life. I can take it away.

Terry_Roll 5y ago
hinkley 5y ago
Sidney Poitier, "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?" One of the best parental tell-offs ever recorded on film: You listen to me. You say you don't want to tell me how to live my life. So what do you think you've been doing? You tell me what rights I've got or haven't got, and what I owe to you for what you've done for me. Let me tell you something. I owe you nothing! If you carried that bag a million miles, you did what you're supposed to do! Because you brought me into this world. And from that day you owed me everything you could ever do for me like I will owe my son if I ever have another. But you don't own me! You can't tell me when or where I'm out of line, or try to get me to live my life according to your rules. You don't even know what I am, Dad, you don't know who I am. You don't know how I feel, what I think. And if I tried to explain it the rest of your life you will never understand. You are 30 years older than I am. You and your whole lousy generation believes the way it was for you is the way it's got to be. And not until your whole generation has lain down and died will the dead weight of you be off our backs! You understand, you've got to get off my back! Dad... Dad, you're my father. I'm your son. I love you. I always have and I always will. But you think of yourself as a colored man. I think of myself as a man. Now, I've got a decision to make, hm? And I've got to make it alone, and I gotta make it in a hurry. So would you go out there and see after my mother?
- 77pt77 5y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbv41abhC3c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbv41abhC3c For those interested.