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I've never heard someone complain the ads don't work. Their factual accuracy, on the other hand, is far more dubious. But they're good ads.

henning 18y ago
I've always wondered how you tell if an ad has actually "worked" -- Apple's increased revenue could be due to a million different things.
- lallysingh 18y ago
  Simple answer: you can't. Best you can do is ask people why they bought from you, but usually their response is suspect. Most will say "through a well-balanced comparison of your competitors" when the answer is really "your ads had the best-looking font."
- boredguy8 18y ago
  There are many studies on just this thing. Primarily examine mass communications journals if you're interested in scholarly research. But the two most common: 1) Focus groups. Take a group of people, have them fill out a questionnaire, watch a group of ads, then answer the questionnaire. These have become more effective over time as the result of methodological research on research bias. In the "early days" people were given a set of questions, watched THE AD, and then answered the same set of questions. It turns out, though, that those questions 'primed the pump' and skewed results when compared to a more neutral setting where there are many questions about many products and then many ads. 2) Market research. Take two representative regions, deploy one advert in one location and another at the other, compare and contrast. Again, this has improved over time where it used to be "nothing vs. something", but that really showed the effectiveness of advertising, not the result of a specific campaign.
many 18y ago
True, they are good ads. To dismiss them a twentieth of a century later is muy smug. People talk about them, they work. They're ads. That's how ads work. Not a cornerstone value of the geek caste system, but without the fake hipster, there's no iPhone. Take heart, dear friends, the apple guy really does love you.

henning 18y ago

I've always wondered how you tell if an ad has actually "worked" -- Apple's increased revenue could be due to a million different things.

lallysingh 18y ago
Simple answer: you can't. Best you can do is ask people why they bought from you, but usually their response is suspect. Most will say "through a well-balanced comparison of your competitors" when the answer is really "your ads had the best-looking font."
boredguy8 18y ago
There are many studies on just this thing. Primarily examine mass communications journals if you're interested in scholarly research. But the two most common: 1) Focus groups. Take a group of people, have them fill out a questionnaire, watch a group of ads, then answer the questionnaire. These have become more effective over time as the result of methodological research on research bias. In the "early days" people were given a set of questions, watched THE AD, and then answered the same set of questions. It turns out, though, that those questions 'primed the pump' and skewed results when compared to a more neutral setting where there are many questions about many products and then many ads. 2) Market research. Take two representative regions, deploy one advert in one location and another at the other, compare and contrast. Again, this has improved over time where it used to be "nothing vs. something", but that really showed the effectiveness of advertising, not the result of a specific campaign.

many 18y ago

True, they are good ads. To dismiss them a twentieth of a century later is muy smug. People talk about them, they work. They're ads. That's how ads work. Not a cornerstone value of the geek caste system, but without the fake hipster, there's no iPhone. Take heart, dear friends, the apple guy really does love you.