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The standard way to describe Apple is that there are good and bad teams. My experience there (SWE org) was 70+ hour workweeks, backstabbing, more politics than
by argitest34 5y ago
The standard way to describe Apple is that there are good and bad teams. My experience there (SWE org) was 70+ hour workweeks, backstabbing, more politics than anywhere else I've ever worked by a factor of ten, useless leadership (director had no charisma or leadership skills, but seemed to have the Jobs personality...), fear of senior management (director, VPs) by managers, and every other negative anecdote about a toxic workplace you can come up with.
That being said, I have colleagues in other orgs/teams that love their job, work 30 hours a week on average, have strong managers, interesting work, and shockingly higher pay.
So, there are good teams and there are bad teams. Unfortunately, you only hear that because there are often far more bad teams than good.
I've been impressed that Apple has thus far avoided one of those "Amazon is the worst company to work for" NYT articles. The lows are so unbelievably low at Apple if you end up on a bad team.
- exBarrelSpoiler 5y agoI have also experienced some uniquely Apple lows in my time. The mini-Jobs personality problem is spot-on, there are some middle managers there who are unprofessionally rude, mean, even dictatorial. The stress is ratcheted up by ironclad deadlines that entire orgs live and die by. And for a long time a lot of internal systems were absurdly out of date even though they belonged to such a cutting-edge company.