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The difference, of course, is that the engineers and CEO won't end up making $200 that week: https://www.businessinsider.com/doordash-delivery-driver-in-oregon-

The difference, of course, is that the engineers and CEO won't end up making $200 that week: https://www.businessinsider.com/doordash-delivery-driver-in-oregon-what-i-wish-i-knew-2020-11 https://www.businessinsider.com/doordash-delivery-driver-in-...

awb 5y ago
Because that’s not the point of the policy. > "As the company grew, the founders wanted everyone to experience different parts of the product so we could get closer to all our audiences and understand how the product works," a DoorDash spokesperson said
- tdeck 5y ago
  It's still a salient point though. For example, I'm constantly seeing a pileup of delivery drivers parked illegally around restaurants while they run inside for a pickup. You're probably a lot more motivated to cut corners like that when you're hustling to make a living from delivery fees, and at the same time the prospect of paying a ticket yourself is a lot scarier on $200/week. Maybe these companies would care more that their service model basically requires drivers to break the law in urban areas.
  - iso1631 5y ago
    I was discussing this earlier, something about a supermarket using deliveroo to deliver food rather than their salaried employees in company vans. Those employees get sick pay and thus obey the law like isolating after a positive test. If you're paid per delivery you aren't going to put health and safety first, you aren't going to park safely and spend 15 minutes doing the delivery, you're going to break as many laws as you can and deliver as much as you can and generally make everything worse for everyone because you have a financial incentive to do so. It's going to have to change.
  - arcbyte 5y ago
    That's the kind of "difficult to predict and unlikely to be reported" thing that this sort of activity is well suited to capture. Otherwise you'd never know how much of an issue it was until it was on the news.
    - snoog 5y ago
      Anyone who rides a bike in New York will quickly become familiar with the negative externalities of delivery app riders. I'm guessing the equivalent behavior (sounds like illegal double parking?) in car-oriented areas is similarly obvious to anyone that drives a car?
- comeonseriously 5y ago
  > "As the company grew, the founders wanted everyone to experience different parts of the product so we could get closer to all our audiences and understand how the product works," a DoorDash spokesperson said Does that mean delivery persons get to be an engineer or a CEO for a day?
  - awb 5y ago
    Even if they had the skills / training to do it the goals of those mid/high level positions are munch longer term than a discreet 30min pickup/delivery transaction. You’d have to be an engineer for a month at least to see a full release cycle or a CxO for a year to see an annual plan go from concept to execution to review.

awb 5y ago

Because that’s not the point of the policy. > "As the company grew, the founders wanted everyone to experience different parts of the product so we could get closer to all our audiences and understand how the product works," a DoorDash spokesperson said

tdeck 5y ago
It's still a salient point though. For example, I'm constantly seeing a pileup of delivery drivers parked illegally around restaurants while they run inside for a pickup. You're probably a lot more motivated to cut corners like that when you're hustling to make a living from delivery fees, and at the same time the prospect of paying a ticket yourself is a lot scarier on $200/week. Maybe these companies would care more that their service model basically requires drivers to break the law in urban areas.
- iso1631 5y ago
  I was discussing this earlier, something about a supermarket using deliveroo to deliver food rather than their salaried employees in company vans. Those employees get sick pay and thus obey the law like isolating after a positive test. If you're paid per delivery you aren't going to put health and safety first, you aren't going to park safely and spend 15 minutes doing the delivery, you're going to break as many laws as you can and deliver as much as you can and generally make everything worse for everyone because you have a financial incentive to do so. It's going to have to change.
- arcbyte 5y ago
  That's the kind of "difficult to predict and unlikely to be reported" thing that this sort of activity is well suited to capture. Otherwise you'd never know how much of an issue it was until it was on the news.
  - snoog 5y ago
    Anyone who rides a bike in New York will quickly become familiar with the negative externalities of delivery app riders. I'm guessing the equivalent behavior (sounds like illegal double parking?) in car-oriented areas is similarly obvious to anyone that drives a car?
comeonseriously 5y ago
> "As the company grew, the founders wanted everyone to experience different parts of the product so we could get closer to all our audiences and understand how the product works," a DoorDash spokesperson said Does that mean delivery persons get to be an engineer or a CEO for a day?
- awb 5y ago
  Even if they had the skills / training to do it the goals of those mid/high level positions are munch longer term than a discreet 30min pickup/delivery transaction. You’d have to be an engineer for a month at least to see a full release cycle or a CxO for a year to see an annual plan go from concept to execution to review.