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E2E||GTFO. Anything else is tyranny. I don’t think you understand your adversary. Moxie is the most ethical individual in this space. Get the hell out of telegr

E2E||GTFO. Anything else is tyranny. I don’t think you understand your adversary. Moxie is the most ethical individual in this space. Get the hell out of telegram, and get your other friends to do so asap.

emptysongglass 5y ago
> E2E||GTFO Please don't do that here. It's both personally insulting and a motto used by fanatics, not an argument for anything. Who is "my adversary" exactly and what do they want with me? No, I don't think Moxie's past and current behavior is indicative of a person who subscribes to ethics. I think he's vain, eager to be in the spotlight and eager to profit off a cryptocurrency invented by a company he has a very complicated history with [1]. [1] https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2021/04/09/signal-founder-may-have-been-more-than-a-tech-adviser-to-mobilecoin/ https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2021/04/09/signal-founder-may-...
- randomhodler84 5y ago
  Your adversary wants the clear text of your messages. The clear text exists on server, or they exist on a client device. Client device is the only acceptable solution. Make it hard for them, they must hack your client, rather than send an email. It IS an argument against snake oil, server side “encryption”. Sorry, this is a hacker board. I, and others hackers, agree with me. E2E||GTFO.
- maqp 5y ago
  "Who is "my adversary" exactly and what do they want with me?" He will extort money from you based on your private message history, when they eventually leak from Telegram's effectively plaintext database. >I think he's vain, eager to be in the spotlight and eager to profit off a cryptocurrency That says more about you than about Moxie. You've shown your character, now strongly consider showing yourself out.
  - emptysongglass 5y ago
    > That says more about you than about Moxie. You've shown your character, now strongly consider showing yourself out. I'm sorry, what? Do you want to explain how giving evidence of Moxie acting poorly is a reflection of me? Or why you're now personally attacking me? I didn't do any such thing to you, please kindly treat me with respect.

emptysongglass 5y ago

> E2E||GTFO Please don't do that here. It's both personally insulting and a motto used by fanatics, not an argument for anything. Who is "my adversary" exactly and what do they want with me? No, I don't think Moxie's past and current behavior is indicative of a person who subscribes to ethics. I think he's vain, eager to be in the spotlight and eager to profit off a cryptocurrency invented by a company he has a very complicated history with [1]. [1] https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2021/04/09/signal-founder-may-have-been-more-than-a-tech-adviser-to-mobilecoin/ https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2021/04/09/signal-founder-may-...

randomhodler84 5y ago
Your adversary wants the clear text of your messages. The clear text exists on server, or they exist on a client device. Client device is the only acceptable solution. Make it hard for them, they must hack your client, rather than send an email. It IS an argument against snake oil, server side “encryption”. Sorry, this is a hacker board. I, and others hackers, agree with me. E2E||GTFO.
maqp 5y ago
"Who is "my adversary" exactly and what do they want with me?" He will extort money from you based on your private message history, when they eventually leak from Telegram's effectively plaintext database. >I think he's vain, eager to be in the spotlight and eager to profit off a cryptocurrency That says more about you than about Moxie. You've shown your character, now strongly consider showing yourself out.
- emptysongglass 5y ago
  > That says more about you than about Moxie. You've shown your character, now strongly consider showing yourself out. I'm sorry, what? Do you want to explain how giving evidence of Moxie acting poorly is a reflection of me? Or why you're now personally attacking me? I didn't do any such thing to you, please kindly treat me with respect.