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OSM is so good that even the fire fighters use it in Poland for navigation and finding fire hydrants. The funny thing is that if you modify or add a fire hydran

OSM is so good that even the fire fighters use it in Poland for navigation and finding fire hydrants. The funny thing is that if you modify or add a fire hydrant a guy from the emergency services asks to send a picture of it before he approves the change.

purple_turtle 5y ago
To clarify: they maintain(ed) own reviewed replica of OSM data and asked about suspicious edits. Any edits in OSM go live immediately without review.
- Tostino 5y ago
  I feel like this is where there could be some improvements. It would be quite nice to allow a review process to be setup for some types of edits. Plenty of examples in the market to get inspiration from.
  - purple_turtle 5y ago
    In many areas there is zero or just one local mapper. And vandalism and malicious editing remains rare. That would be enormous effort for minimal benefit.
    - Tostino 5y ago
      That is fine when the scale for OSM is intentionally small. But if larger companies want to use OSM as a base for their mapping solution while contributing changes upstream, it will be helpful to have that infrastructure setup for merging in changes without issue. Edit: I am not suggesting the existing OSM community build this, if companies want to do this they will put in the effort.
juliansimioni 5y ago
That's amazing! I know that lots of local and regional governments are trending towards using OSM as their source of truth for data about their area, but hadn't heard that particular story. Love it!
spockz 5y ago
How does that work? Does OSM verify who emergency services employees are? Or is the item owned by an account of an employee of the emergency services? It seems like this data should be coming directly from some government database.
- purple_turtle 5y ago
  To clarify: they maintain(ed) own reviewed replica of OSM data and asked about suspicious edits. Any edits in OSM go live immediately without review. And Poland has no government database of hydrants or AED. In fact Polish community is right now working on making decent AED database - with https://aed.openstreetmap.org.pl/ https://aed.openstreetmap.org.pl/ created recently that shows already collected data
lostlogin 5y ago
How is this not done by the installer? Seems like a problem that didn’t need crowd sourcing.
- purple_turtle 5y ago
  That would make sense but at least some companies that maintain hydrants are also using OSM data.
- jjwiseman 5y ago
  Some things happened before OSM existed.

purple_turtle 5y ago

To clarify: they maintain(ed) own reviewed replica of OSM data and asked about suspicious edits. Any edits in OSM go live immediately without review.

Tostino 5y ago
I feel like this is where there could be some improvements. It would be quite nice to allow a review process to be setup for some types of edits. Plenty of examples in the market to get inspiration from.
- purple_turtle 5y ago
  In many areas there is zero or just one local mapper. And vandalism and malicious editing remains rare. That would be enormous effort for minimal benefit.
  - Tostino 5y ago
    That is fine when the scale for OSM is intentionally small. But if larger companies want to use OSM as a base for their mapping solution while contributing changes upstream, it will be helpful to have that infrastructure setup for merging in changes without issue. Edit: I am not suggesting the existing OSM community build this, if companies want to do this they will put in the effort.

juliansimioni 5y ago

That's amazing! I know that lots of local and regional governments are trending towards using OSM as their source of truth for data about their area, but hadn't heard that particular story. Love it!

spockz 5y ago

How does that work? Does OSM verify who emergency services employees are? Or is the item owned by an account of an employee of the emergency services? It seems like this data should be coming directly from some government database.

purple_turtle 5y ago
To clarify: they maintain(ed) own reviewed replica of OSM data and asked about suspicious edits. Any edits in OSM go live immediately without review. And Poland has no government database of hydrants or AED. In fact Polish community is right now working on making decent AED database - with https://aed.openstreetmap.org.pl/ https://aed.openstreetmap.org.pl/ created recently that shows already collected data

lostlogin 5y ago

How is this not done by the installer? Seems like a problem that didn’t need crowd sourcing.

purple_turtle 5y ago
That would make sense but at least some companies that maintain hydrants are also using OSM data.
jjwiseman 5y ago
Some things happened before OSM existed.