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> They don't want users making deals with local ISPs for service. They want in on that transaction. Virtual SIMs, controlled by phone manufacturers, will allow
by throw0101a 5y ago
> They don't want users making deals with local ISPs for service. They want in on that transaction. Virtual SIMs, controlled by phone manufacturers, will allow them to exercise a degree of control over wandering users.
SIMs come from the phone company. How could it be otherwise as that's where the phone number comes from, and that's how the local physical network determines whether you're allowed to connect or not:
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_card https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_card
Unless Apple is planning to become a MVNO (or building out their own cell towers), they cannot provide any information for network connectivity.
- neon_electro 5y agoFrom your own link: > A virtual SIM is a mobile phone number provided by a mobile network operator that does not require a SIM card to connect phone calls to a user's mobile phone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_card#Other_variants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_card#Other_variants This isn't about Apple becoming an MVNO, this is about Apple somehow controlling the process of configuring your phone because you no longer have the option to choose a SIM card and insert it yourself.
- hermes8329 5y agoGuess what. Apple can dent physical sims too though Why do you think you a physical sim for different providers. Because they only work with that provider. Apple can turn the tap off on a class of Sims as it is
- mrcode007 5y agoThis is FUD. It’s about streamlining configuration of plans and activation and getting rid of physical widget https://www.t-mobile.com/support/tutorials/topic/esim/activate-postpaid-esim-by-scanning-a-qr-code/device/apple/iphone-11 https://www.t-mobile.com/support/tutorials/topic/esim/activa...
- pessimizer 5y agoThis is marketing. It's about putting Apple in the middle of plans and activation, and getting rid of a physical standard.
- rosndo 5y ago
- NullPrefix 5y ago>working on my own eSIM implementation Please tell me you are serious about this. Tried looking into this earlier and found out that eSIM is extra proprietary, which means no hobby devices, like those 3G/4G/GSM connectivity Arduino modules.
- mrcode007 5y agoI don’t know where you’re pulling these claims out from but here are the specs: https://www.gsma.com/esim/esim-specification/ https://www.gsma.com/esim/esim-specification/ In addition you can get ST micro data sheets for full blown electrical and mechanical data sheets for free
- y4mi 5y agoThey can emulate the SIM card which gets provisioned on-the-fly with no user input according to the position of the device and whatever contract apple has for that area. That's definitely going to be a step up in user comfort... The average apple user will definitely love it
- Tijdreiziger 5y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_SIM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_SIM
- BTCOG 5y agoFrom rumors I heard over a year ago, Apple are planning on satellite implementations of some sort to get off current cell tower configurations and SIM vulnerabilities. I don't have a current link to those rumors, but I'm sure you can find them. When I first saw this MacRumors article come through I assumed this is why they're removing SIM. We'll see, it's just rumors to me until it's brought to fruition anyway.