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I'm so glad I'm already in my thirties. I'll be dead by the time the shit will really start to hit the fan. I'm pretty sure that people of the future will cons

by y4mi 5y ago

I'm so glad I'm already in my thirties. I'll be dead by the time the shit will really start to hit the fan. I'm pretty sure that people of the future will consider the time between 1950-2050 century to be the golden age of our current Civilization. There are so many basically unsolvable issues on the horizon that I see absolutely no chance that our society will survive in it's current form. My bet would be that we'll devolve into another form of aristocracy as soon as AI/automation make a human workforce mostly redundant. Technological progress is likely going to stagnate entirely at that point, we all know how rich people generally behave without outside forces...

wazoox 5y ago
The famed Peak oil can't be pushed back forever: https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Oil-Major-Total-Sees-10-Million-Bpd-Supply-Gap-In-2025.html https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Oil-Major-Total-S... https://www.woodmac.com/news/opinion/big-themes-and-risks-for-energy-in-2021/ https://www.woodmac.com/news/opinion/big-themes-and-risks-fo... https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/industry-and-energy/2021/04/russia-may-have-passed-peak-oil-output-government https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/industry-and-energy/2021/0... OTOH, there's still enough coal to kill us all: https://www.ft.com/content/4536bc72-6eb3-457d-b9a5-a94cc2669a96 https://www.ft.com/content/4536bc72-6eb3-457d-b9a5-a94cc2669... But we may lack the necessary mineral resources for "clean" transition: https://www.iea.org/reports/the-role-of-critical-minerals-in-clean-energy-transitions https://www.iea.org/reports/the-role-of-critical-minerals-in... My bet is that we'll be crushed between a degraded environment, with declining agricultural yield, more pandemias, etc, and reduced energy availability (no energy == no economy == no efficient action against climate change). Don't worry, you'll live interesting times (as the Chinese curse goes). Seneca cliff, here we come!
Mildlypolite 5y ago
Nope you won't, disruption is coming earlier unfortunately. https://youtu.be/1BDmIis9STE https://youtu.be/1BDmIis9STE
- y4mi 5y ago
  I'm not sure if you linked the correct video, because he's also saying that its going to be the children that will be in trouble. I really don't see europe failing before 2050, and that was the time horizon i mentioned...
  - wazoox 5y ago
    Europe will be short on energy most probably around 2025 (all of its oil and gas suppliers are already in decline). That could be pretty bad by itself. Also, +1.5°C is generally anticipated for 2030, and it could be really bad, too. Both together: huge pain is almost a given.
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by y4mi 5y ago

wazoox 5y ago

The famed Peak oil can't be pushed back forever: https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Oil-Major-Total-Sees-10-Million-Bpd-Supply-Gap-In-2025.html https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Oil-Major-Total-S... https://www.woodmac.com/news/opinion/big-themes-and-risks-for-energy-in-2021/ https://www.woodmac.com/news/opinion/big-themes-and-risks-fo... https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/industry-and-energy/2021/04/russia-may-have-passed-peak-oil-output-government https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/industry-and-energy/2021/0... OTOH, there's still enough coal to kill us all: https://www.ft.com/content/4536bc72-6eb3-457d-b9a5-a94cc2669a96 https://www.ft.com/content/4536bc72-6eb3-457d-b9a5-a94cc2669... But we may lack the necessary mineral resources for "clean" transition: https://www.iea.org/reports/the-role-of-critical-minerals-in-clean-energy-transitions https://www.iea.org/reports/the-role-of-critical-minerals-in... My bet is that we'll be crushed between a degraded environment, with declining agricultural yield, more pandemias, etc, and reduced energy availability (no energy == no economy == no efficient action against climate change). Don't worry, you'll live interesting times (as the Chinese curse goes). Seneca cliff, here we come!

Mildlypolite 5y ago

Nope you won't, disruption is coming earlier unfortunately. https://youtu.be/1BDmIis9STE https://youtu.be/1BDmIis9STE

y4mi 5y ago
I'm not sure if you linked the correct video, because he's also saying that its going to be the children that will be in trouble. I really don't see europe failing before 2050, and that was the time horizon i mentioned...
- wazoox 5y ago
  Europe will be short on energy most probably around 2025 (all of its oil and gas suppliers are already in decline). That could be pretty bad by itself. Also, +1.5°C is generally anticipated for 2030, and it could be really bad, too. Both together: huge pain is almost a given.
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