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Prediction: this will lead to a US type safety response with a sticker on the box saying "This device doesn't give advice it just looks up things on the interne

Prediction: this will lead to a US type safety response with a sticker on the box saying "This device doesn't give advice it just looks up things on the internet and you shouldn't do what it says nor operate it without an adult". Like when you buy any product whatsoever it's full of stickers saying things like "don't ride this 100hp quad bike while on drugs and not wearing a helmet". That is, if the product is sold in the US.

saurik 5y ago
Unless the FDA somehow gets involved, of course: they wield a ban hammer. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29709315 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29709315
Kiro 5y ago
That's a very American thing.
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- alkonaut 5y ago
  Indeed. If you buy a European 100hp quad bike in Europe you don't have to start by removing 20 stickers with silly obvious advice on it. Are there exemptions from this in the US? I mean, are there things that are soo obviously dangerous and well-known, that stickers aren't needed because corporate lawyers feel safe? E.g. if you go buy a chef's knife, will there be stickers saying you shouldn't operate it drunk, and you have to read the instructions? If not, why?
  - thatguy0900 5y ago
    I honestly don't even know what you mean, only time I remember ever taking a sticker off or even seeing a sticker on something I bought is on a laser pointer that said not to shine it at eyes. The warnings are on booklets in the packaging or printed on the packaging itself, which shares space with normal usage instructions or which get thrown away immediately. This is a complete non issue, things we buy are not just coated in stickers.
    - alkonaut 5y ago
      Go look at a new motorcycle/quad/snowmobile etc. Somewhere visible from the driver position e.g on top of the fuel tank you’ll see them. Why new cars don’t have the same on the steering wheel I don’t know. Here is an Aussie regulation with an image of the required sticker. The US ones are similar (but could vary between states, unsure). https://www.commerce.wa.gov.au/consumer-protection/quad-bikes#warninglabel https://www.commerce.wa.gov.au/consumer-protection/quad-bike...
  - Kalium 5y ago
    No, but those warnings and similar will probably be printed on a tiny booklet that you will reflexively discard unread.
  - vharuck 5y ago
    >Are there exemptions from this in the US? Yes, implied acceptance of risk. In short, if a person understood the chance of the bad thing happening when they chose to take part, they can't blame somebody else for it happening. (Unless the other person was negligent or intentionally caused harm.) As an example, if you join a pick-up soccer game at the park and lose a tooth while playing goalie, you're likely to lose any lawsuit against the guy who kicked the ball.
    - alkonaut 5y ago
      This makes sense. But somehow something happened where the implied acceptance of risk when riding ATV’s and Snowmobiles was basically nonexistent, leaving responsibility with the manufacturers who felt the need to start labeling?
haunter 5y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objects_in_mirror_are_closer_than_they_appear https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objects_in_mirror_are_closer_t...
barbazoo 5y ago
You might actually be right. Just like businesses have to tell customers that coffee is hot and explain how mirrors on cars work.

saurik 5y ago

Unless the FDA somehow gets involved, of course: they wield a ban hammer. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29709315 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29709315

Kiro 5y ago

That's a very American thing.

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alkonaut 5y ago
Indeed. If you buy a European 100hp quad bike in Europe you don't have to start by removing 20 stickers with silly obvious advice on it. Are there exemptions from this in the US? I mean, are there things that are soo obviously dangerous and well-known, that stickers aren't needed because corporate lawyers feel safe? E.g. if you go buy a chef's knife, will there be stickers saying you shouldn't operate it drunk, and you have to read the instructions? If not, why?
- thatguy0900 5y ago
  I honestly don't even know what you mean, only time I remember ever taking a sticker off or even seeing a sticker on something I bought is on a laser pointer that said not to shine it at eyes. The warnings are on booklets in the packaging or printed on the packaging itself, which shares space with normal usage instructions or which get thrown away immediately. This is a complete non issue, things we buy are not just coated in stickers.
  - alkonaut 5y ago
    Go look at a new motorcycle/quad/snowmobile etc. Somewhere visible from the driver position e.g on top of the fuel tank you’ll see them. Why new cars don’t have the same on the steering wheel I don’t know. Here is an Aussie regulation with an image of the required sticker. The US ones are similar (but could vary between states, unsure). https://www.commerce.wa.gov.au/consumer-protection/quad-bikes#warninglabel https://www.commerce.wa.gov.au/consumer-protection/quad-bike...
- Kalium 5y ago
  No, but those warnings and similar will probably be printed on a tiny booklet that you will reflexively discard unread.
- vharuck 5y ago
  >Are there exemptions from this in the US? Yes, implied acceptance of risk. In short, if a person understood the chance of the bad thing happening when they chose to take part, they can't blame somebody else for it happening. (Unless the other person was negligent or intentionally caused harm.) As an example, if you join a pick-up soccer game at the park and lose a tooth while playing goalie, you're likely to lose any lawsuit against the guy who kicked the ball.
  - alkonaut 5y ago
    This makes sense. But somehow something happened where the implied acceptance of risk when riding ATV’s and Snowmobiles was basically nonexistent, leaving responsibility with the manufacturers who felt the need to start labeling?

haunter 5y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objects_in_mirror_are_closer_than_they_appear https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objects_in_mirror_are_closer_t...

barbazoo 5y ago

You might actually be right. Just like businesses have to tell customers that coffee is hot and explain how mirrors on cars work.