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This is going to be very difficult. But we should be able to do it if all of us thought real hard about it. Think of how to remove CO2 most efficiently from th

This is going to be very difficult. But we should be able to do it if all of us thought real hard about it. Think of how to remove CO2 most efficiently from the air. Then scale to global while keeping it cheap. Then get all the world citizens involved. We can have movies, concerts, video games, political campaigns, social media campaigns, support from big tech like Apple, Alphabet, Amazon. Then when all the world citizens will come together and they will push together, this will be achievable and we will win the race against time and humanity will survive and thrive. It is not impossible. Because impossible means i m possible.

libertine 5y ago
> Then get all the world citizens involved. We can have movies, concerts, video games, political campaigns, social media campaigns, support from big tech like Apple, Alphabet, Amazon. The problem here is that we will, once again, ask developing nations to also pull the weight and pay the cost that allowed developed countries to reach their current position.
- inglor_cz 5y ago
  Why is it a problem? They are people too and they too contribute to climate change. I can understand reducing the demands on them appropriately, but letting them off the hook completely does not really make sense to me. At the end of the day, you do not want to create any totally exempted zones (carbon tax paradises?), because that is where the polluting industry will move if having the opportunity to do so.
  - libertine 5y ago
    The problem if there's a cost to it, and you make it sound like we're all going to pay the same. Developed nations should pay way more than others if you want to make it right. Such paradises would only exist if we allowed them to exist. The same goes to tax heavens, we just opt to let them exist.
zaphar 5y ago
The only thing that makes it difficult is human nature. We already know how to remove co2 from the air. Plant large amounts of fast growing plants like bamboo, sequester them after they grow. Repeat. But there is no financial incentive to do so, and therefore it doesn't happen. This is not a technical program. It's a persuasion problem and therefore way more difficult to pull off.
- inglor_cz 5y ago
  "Plant large amounts of fast growing plants like bamboo, sequester them after they grow. " Where? Good soil that supports fast growing plants is generally used for growing food. Poor soil won't do. Not to mention the risk of habitat destruction. See: palm oil production, once considered ecological, now understood as a danger to tropical rainforests. Ideally, you would have to do this in a non-corrupt, not very much populated, country that has warm climate, a lot of rain and a lot of good soil. IDK who exactly fulfills these criteria.
  - zaphar 5y ago
    This is probably more of a feature than a problem. Those are the exact countries that we are asking to shoulder a higher burden than the others since they are behind the curve on development. If richer countries provided financial opportunities via this with proper oversight it might overcome some of the pushback from those countries. But again, this is a human problem not a technical one.

libertine 5y ago

> Then get all the world citizens involved. We can have movies, concerts, video games, political campaigns, social media campaigns, support from big tech like Apple, Alphabet, Amazon. The problem here is that we will, once again, ask developing nations to also pull the weight and pay the cost that allowed developed countries to reach their current position.

inglor_cz 5y ago
Why is it a problem? They are people too and they too contribute to climate change. I can understand reducing the demands on them appropriately, but letting them off the hook completely does not really make sense to me. At the end of the day, you do not want to create any totally exempted zones (carbon tax paradises?), because that is where the polluting industry will move if having the opportunity to do so.
- libertine 5y ago
  The problem if there's a cost to it, and you make it sound like we're all going to pay the same. Developed nations should pay way more than others if you want to make it right. Such paradises would only exist if we allowed them to exist. The same goes to tax heavens, we just opt to let them exist.

zaphar 5y ago

The only thing that makes it difficult is human nature. We already know how to remove co2 from the air. Plant large amounts of fast growing plants like bamboo, sequester them after they grow. Repeat. But there is no financial incentive to do so, and therefore it doesn't happen. This is not a technical program. It's a persuasion problem and therefore way more difficult to pull off.

inglor_cz 5y ago
"Plant large amounts of fast growing plants like bamboo, sequester them after they grow. " Where? Good soil that supports fast growing plants is generally used for growing food. Poor soil won't do. Not to mention the risk of habitat destruction. See: palm oil production, once considered ecological, now understood as a danger to tropical rainforests. Ideally, you would have to do this in a non-corrupt, not very much populated, country that has warm climate, a lot of rain and a lot of good soil. IDK who exactly fulfills these criteria.
- zaphar 5y ago
  This is probably more of a feature than a problem. Those are the exact countries that we are asking to shoulder a higher burden than the others since they are behind the curve on development. If richer countries provided financial opportunities via this with proper oversight it might overcome some of the pushback from those countries. But again, this is a human problem not a technical one.