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Your opinion on this is akin to my parents opinion about sports: those who do sports get traumas and then regret it. Therefore don’t do sports. This is a very

Your opinion on this is akin to my parents opinion about sports: those who do sports get traumas and then regret it. Therefore don’t do sports. This is a very weak fallacy.

0xBABAD00C 5y ago
I think you constructed and bravely defeated a weak strawman. My opinion is not akin to your parents' opinion at all. Everything comes with risk and reward, I was simply pointing out the risks. I never said "the reward isn't worth it". Diving into actions without understanding the risks is indeed a cognitive fallacy/blind spot.
thatguy0900 5y ago
It's not that much of a fallacy. What if you come to a socially unnaceptable conclusion about some ethnicity or culture after too much study? If you are a software dev that poses a significant risk to your job and social life.
- heavenlyblue 5y ago
  > What if you come to a socially unnaceptable conclusion about some ethnicity or culture after too much study? If you are a software dev that poses a significant risk to your job and social life. What’s the difference between being silent about I because you don’t know it and being silent about it because you know you will be judged for it? It’s the equivalent argument for “Turn it off” in the Book of Mormon.
  - thatguy0900 5y ago
    It is very hard and obnoxious to consistently lie about your core beliefs in a group forever. It will foster resentment to be surrounded by people who openly mock or hate your opinion while you know you must remain silent. It is a very different situation to being neutral on it or agreeing with those people.
- Levitz 5y ago
  What good is it to think by oneself if it isn't to arrive to views that wouldn't be given to you by society? If you are right and society is wrong, then you stand a chance to correct an enormous mistake. If you are wrong and society is right, it is by people like you who argue against common tenets that they become hard to argue against. It's not worth it on a personal level, but very few things short of running for a position are worth it politically on a personal level, it is only on a societal level that they make sense.

Your opinion on this is akin to my parents opinion about sports: those who do sports get traumas and then regret it. Therefore don’t do sports. This is a very weak fallacy.

0xBABAD00C 5y ago

I think you constructed and bravely defeated a weak strawman. My opinion is not akin to your parents' opinion at all. Everything comes with risk and reward, I was simply pointing out the risks. I never said "the reward isn't worth it". Diving into actions without understanding the risks is indeed a cognitive fallacy/blind spot.

thatguy0900 5y ago

It's not that much of a fallacy. What if you come to a socially unnaceptable conclusion about some ethnicity or culture after too much study? If you are a software dev that poses a significant risk to your job and social life.

heavenlyblue 5y ago
> What if you come to a socially unnaceptable conclusion about some ethnicity or culture after too much study? If you are a software dev that poses a significant risk to your job and social life. What’s the difference between being silent about I because you don’t know it and being silent about it because you know you will be judged for it? It’s the equivalent argument for “Turn it off” in the Book of Mormon.
- thatguy0900 5y ago
  It is very hard and obnoxious to consistently lie about your core beliefs in a group forever. It will foster resentment to be surrounded by people who openly mock or hate your opinion while you know you must remain silent. It is a very different situation to being neutral on it or agreeing with those people.
Levitz 5y ago
What good is it to think by oneself if it isn't to arrive to views that wouldn't be given to you by society? If you are right and society is wrong, then you stand a chance to correct an enormous mistake. If you are wrong and society is right, it is by people like you who argue against common tenets that they become hard to argue against. It's not worth it on a personal level, but very few things short of running for a position are worth it politically on a personal level, it is only on a societal level that they make sense.