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Off-topic but the archive.org page is unusable for me on mobile due to the donation banner: the close button is obscured by the timeline and can't be clicked, "

Off-topic but the archive.org page is unusable for me on mobile due to the donation banner: the close button is obscured by the timeline and can't be clicked, "maybe later" replaces it with a different banner asking for contact info which I also can't close. I love IA and have donated to them before but this is slowly sliding into the dark UX patterns making web unusable.

hybrid1999 5y ago
It works for me. I am using chrome on android
alvarlagerlof 5y ago
Same.
grishka 5y ago
That banner was annoying enough for me on desktop that I removed it with my ad blocker a while ago.
IceWreck 5y ago
> I love IA and have donated to them before but this is slowly sliding into the dark UX patterns making web unusable. This is ironic because the internet archive made this just last year https://wayforward.archive.org/ https://wayforward.archive.org/
pmontra 5y ago
No banner on Firefox Android. Maybe it's uBlock Origin. But I had to use reader mode to read the tiny non reflowing text.
ziml77 5y ago
It broke reader mode too. I got the text of the donation banner and nothing else. Had to zoom into the corner so I could tap the microscopic close button on the timeline so I could then close the donation banner.
opan 5y ago
Your description immediately reminded me of Wikipedia. It's a shame these good projects fall to these levels.
- gcr 5y ago
  Nonprofits gotta solicit donations. NPR does this, PBS' infamous pledge week does this. This isn't "falling," it's an old practice.
  - progbits 5y ago
    Yes that is fine. I'll donate to them again. But can it please be without the annoying banners, "we need to talk" or similar email subjects and so on? I'm sure it helps convince some people, but doesn't it discourage more?
  - zinekeller 5y ago
    I don't know IA's budget (might be just the pandemic has tolled its finances), but I have reservations about Wikimedia's use of money. (Only the main foundation, others like the German affiliate is efficient about money and except for 2020 has a surplus which obviously went to cover inevitable shortfalls.)
    - Kon-Peki 5y ago
      IA is fighting a lawsuit over its pandemic digital book lending service - where they begged for a lawsuit by deliberately offering unlimited lending of scanned books. This is obviously something they must win, so it's going to get really expensive. A quick search shows that the lawsuit is currently in the discovery phase, which is around the time that lawsuits start to get really, really expensive. And apparently the two sides are fighting, leading the judge to extend discovery while they work out the issues. $$$$
      - throw10920 5y ago
        Why is the lawsuit that they intentionally begged for "obviously something they must win"?
kiklion 5y ago
I use default safari on iPhone and was able to hit the x to hide the timeline and then another x to hide the donation banner.
mananaysiempre 5y ago
The post is still up on the author’s self-hosted blog, no archive needed: http://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1363672582&count=1 http://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1363672582&count=1

hybrid1999 5y ago

It works for me. I am using chrome on android

alvarlagerlof 5y ago

Same.

grishka 5y ago

That banner was annoying enough for me on desktop that I removed it with my ad blocker a while ago.

IceWreck 5y ago

> I love IA and have donated to them before but this is slowly sliding into the dark UX patterns making web unusable. This is ironic because the internet archive made this just last year https://wayforward.archive.org/ https://wayforward.archive.org/

pmontra 5y ago

No banner on Firefox Android. Maybe it's uBlock Origin. But I had to use reader mode to read the tiny non reflowing text.

ziml77 5y ago

It broke reader mode too. I got the text of the donation banner and nothing else. Had to zoom into the corner so I could tap the microscopic close button on the timeline so I could then close the donation banner.

opan 5y ago

Your description immediately reminded me of Wikipedia. It's a shame these good projects fall to these levels.

gcr 5y ago
Nonprofits gotta solicit donations. NPR does this, PBS' infamous pledge week does this. This isn't "falling," it's an old practice.
- progbits 5y ago
  Yes that is fine. I'll donate to them again. But can it please be without the annoying banners, "we need to talk" or similar email subjects and so on? I'm sure it helps convince some people, but doesn't it discourage more?
- zinekeller 5y ago
  I don't know IA's budget (might be just the pandemic has tolled its finances), but I have reservations about Wikimedia's use of money. (Only the main foundation, others like the German affiliate is efficient about money and except for 2020 has a surplus which obviously went to cover inevitable shortfalls.)
  - Kon-Peki 5y ago
    IA is fighting a lawsuit over its pandemic digital book lending service - where they begged for a lawsuit by deliberately offering unlimited lending of scanned books. This is obviously something they must win, so it's going to get really expensive. A quick search shows that the lawsuit is currently in the discovery phase, which is around the time that lawsuits start to get really, really expensive. And apparently the two sides are fighting, leading the judge to extend discovery while they work out the issues. $$$$
    - throw10920 5y ago
      Why is the lawsuit that they intentionally begged for "obviously something they must win"?

kiklion 5y ago

I use default safari on iPhone and was able to hit the x to hide the timeline and then another x to hide the donation banner.

mananaysiempre 5y ago

The post is still up on the author’s self-hosted blog, no archive needed: http://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1363672582&count=1 http://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1363672582&count=1