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We rightly shut down the sense of entitlement that some users have to project maintainers' time and effort. I believe this whole recurring "open source + discor

We rightly shut down the sense of entitlement that some users have to project maintainers' time and effort. I believe this whole recurring "open source + discord = bad" talking point comes from the same sense of entitlement. As an open source maintainer, I use discord (along with email, issues, discussions, PRs, Twitter, site chat etc.) as another option for those wishing to use it. It's not forced upon anyone. A small groups' esoteric (sometimes self-imposed) handicaps doesn't constitute a change in course for everyone else.

cycomanic 5y ago
You do realise who the author of that blog post is? I guess you could accuse DDVault of many things, but entitlement towards FOSS maintainers is pretty far of that list IMO. That guy is one of the most prolific free software authors and maintainers at the moment. So I think he clearly knows about the burdens of maintaining software.
emptysongglass 5y ago
It's not entitlement. It's a large cohort of people who have seen what happens when you buy into products not protocols, got burned (everyone has their example but for me it was Google Talk back in the day), and said enough is enough businesses cannot be trusted to be good stewards over any significant length of time. I'm sorry to say but this is a youth-oriented vector that exploits a lack of experience in the target population (game communities were the bread and butter of Discord in its early years) in what happens when you trust any essential product in the hands of a corporation. When I was younger I did the same thing and it's unfortunate because the fact is a drive for profit eventually turns any business against its users' interests and with it torpedoes years of knowledge that could have helped others for decades to come. CEOs come and go, boards change, teams change, investors expect their money back, etc. etc. Just follow the money.

cycomanic 5y ago

You do realise who the author of that blog post is? I guess you could accuse DDVault of many things, but entitlement towards FOSS maintainers is pretty far of that list IMO. That guy is one of the most prolific free software authors and maintainers at the moment. So I think he clearly knows about the burdens of maintaining software.

emptysongglass 5y ago

It's not entitlement. It's a large cohort of people who have seen what happens when you buy into products not protocols, got burned (everyone has their example but for me it was Google Talk back in the day), and said enough is enough businesses cannot be trusted to be good stewards over any significant length of time. I'm sorry to say but this is a youth-oriented vector that exploits a lack of experience in the target population (game communities were the bread and butter of Discord in its early years) in what happens when you trust any essential product in the hands of a corporation. When I was younger I did the same thing and it's unfortunate because the fact is a drive for profit eventually turns any business against its users' interests and with it torpedoes years of knowledge that could have helped others for decades to come. CEOs come and go, boards change, teams change, investors expect their money back, etc. etc. Just follow the money.