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Apply to work at Google. They have never embraced WFH and probably never will.

by kjgkjhfkjf 5y ago

KaiserPro 5y ago
yeah but then you have to work for google. big companies have a _lot_ of baggage.
- alecbz 5y ago
  Not denying this but 0.02: after working for Google and another "big" company (>5k employees) and two small (<50) companies, I was much happier at the big companies.
  - KaiserPro 5y ago
    sorry I should have specified how big is big. I'm talking >35k. even a 5k company, its perfectly possible to change the company in one specific way. (Even I managed it, by accident) at a 25k company, that's hard. 50k+ almost impossible, unless you have a posse of cheerleaders.
    - alecbz 5y ago
      I think at a certain size though a large enough company starts to approximate a conglomerate of smaller companies. Sure, maybe you can't change the entire company, but you could change your smaller org.
aix1 5y ago
I am not sure that's true anymore. Every single application to work remotely that I know of (including mine[*]) has been approved. That said, most people are choosing to continue being based at whatever office they were based pre-COVID and will return to office once the public health situation permits (some already have been choosing to come to the office, though the situation is obviously highly location-dependent and fluid). [*] In my case to relocate to an office of my choosing, though the outcome would have been the same had I applied to permanently WFH.
cmrdporcupine 5y ago
At our site (Google Waterloo) we're nowhere close to a return to office. In fact with numbers skyrocketing here we just rolled back a bunch. Most people are still fully remote. I was working hybrid coming in 2-3 days a week but nobody was ever there to collaborate with. People on the whole seem to want to return to office but not with the way things are. Many people seem fine with remote. I'm not. My motivation suffered. I need contact and engagement. And driving in 45 minutes to sit at a desk with nobody around didn't help. So I put in my notice and after 10 years at Google this week is my last and I'll be looking for a job where I can be more engaged again, which unfortunately also probably means compensation cut. Even the BigCorps are stuck in a remote morass. But even worse because they're not fully committed to it.
- ultrasounder 5y ago
  If he’ll bent on getting back to work checkout Excelitas I’m your neck of the woods. I am in conference call with them every week and they are in the office and so am I. Or why not come work for our company. Molecular diagnostics is hard, not adtech and we need all the xooglers that we can take. A guy just relocated from st.Louis.
  - cmrdporcupine 5y ago
    Thanks. I'm not in a rush, have some savings. Might start my own thing, but even if I don't, I likely won't do anything until after ski season. Relocation is off the table.

Apply to work at Google. They have never embraced WFH and probably never will.

KaiserPro 5y ago

yeah but then you have to work for google. big companies have a _lot_ of baggage.

alecbz 5y ago
Not denying this but 0.02: after working for Google and another "big" company (>5k employees) and two small (<50) companies, I was much happier at the big companies.
- KaiserPro 5y ago
  sorry I should have specified how big is big. I'm talking >35k. even a 5k company, its perfectly possible to change the company in one specific way. (Even I managed it, by accident) at a 25k company, that's hard. 50k+ almost impossible, unless you have a posse of cheerleaders.
  - alecbz 5y ago
    I think at a certain size though a large enough company starts to approximate a conglomerate of smaller companies. Sure, maybe you can't change the entire company, but you could change your smaller org.

aix1 5y ago

I am not sure that's true anymore. Every single application to work remotely that I know of (including mine[*]) has been approved. That said, most people are choosing to continue being based at whatever office they were based pre-COVID and will return to office once the public health situation permits (some already have been choosing to come to the office, though the situation is obviously highly location-dependent and fluid). [*] In my case to relocate to an office of my choosing, though the outcome would have been the same had I applied to permanently WFH.

cmrdporcupine 5y ago

At our site (Google Waterloo) we're nowhere close to a return to office. In fact with numbers skyrocketing here we just rolled back a bunch. Most people are still fully remote. I was working hybrid coming in 2-3 days a week but nobody was ever there to collaborate with. People on the whole seem to want to return to office but not with the way things are. Many people seem fine with remote. I'm not. My motivation suffered. I need contact and engagement. And driving in 45 minutes to sit at a desk with nobody around didn't help. So I put in my notice and after 10 years at Google this week is my last and I'll be looking for a job where I can be more engaged again, which unfortunately also probably means compensation cut. Even the BigCorps are stuck in a remote morass. But even worse because they're not fully committed to it.

ultrasounder 5y ago
If he’ll bent on getting back to work checkout Excelitas I’m your neck of the woods. I am in conference call with them every week and they are in the office and so am I. Or why not come work for our company. Molecular diagnostics is hard, not adtech and we need all the xooglers that we can take. A guy just relocated from st.Louis.
- cmrdporcupine 5y ago
  Thanks. I'm not in a rush, have some savings. Might start my own thing, but even if I don't, I likely won't do anything until after ski season. Relocation is off the table.