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Same goes for twitch. Found this cozy stream and followed. Was called out, wished a merry christmas. Wanted to say thanks, but couldn't, because apparently "ve

Same goes for twitch. Found this cozy stream and followed. Was called out, wished a merry christmas. Wanted to say thanks, but couldn't, because apparently "verified accounts only chat" is a thing. Well, not gonna share my phone number with the world. My phone number is kinda holy to me.

unixhero 5y ago
Uhm that thing about the phone number is a totally losing battle. You should adapt by getting a burner phone with a separate number.
- OtomotO 5y ago
  Or I just don't use such services. I know it's not en vogue, but abstinence is one possible solution. I don't feel like having to pay 10€/year for a burner phone (so the SIM isn't deactivated) It's fine, I can live without most of these services just fine. And if I can't any longer, I will walk that bridge then.
  - unixhero 5y ago
    How do you achieve multi factor auth at all then, if you regard tour phone number to be a secret.
    - OtomotO 5y ago
      I only have multi factor auth enabled for clients of mine Apart from that I use strong passwords. Wasn't hacked in over 20 years :)
      - unixhero 5y ago
        Your password can be as strong as it can possibly be, but a lot of services nowadays require MFA.
        OtomotO 5y ago
        Correct and I don't use most of such services. I survived without them before, I will now. And I have more spare time then, to read, to exercise, to enjoy nature, to code...
    - commoner 5y ago
      TOTP does not require a phone number, and it's not vulnerable to SIM jacking.
haunter 5y ago
That's up to the broadcaster not Twitch, everyone can set on their own. https://i.imgur.com/im2JAkc.png https://i.imgur.com/im2JAkc.png
- OtomotO 5y ago
  Well aware. It's not the only stream I am interested in. Also similar to discord, because so far I wasn't forced to add a number there. Maybe it's not up to the server owner, but it's also not mandatory on the whole discord platform
  - haunter 5y ago
    Up to the server owners https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/216679607-What-are-Verification-Levels- https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/216679607-What...
    - OtomotO 5y ago
      Thanks, so it's actually totally similar to Twitch. Also not very inclusive, if you ask me. I know people who have no phone on purpose :)
YuY7 5y ago
A lot of smaller Streamer only allow verified accounts only because there is a lot of spam happening and they don't have enough mods to deal with that
- OtomotO 5y ago
  Was the first small streamer with such a restriction for me. (Mostly following small streamers, being a tiny one myself ;)) That's totally fine, I am not mad at them, I understand their motives. It's then just simply not for me, is all.
  - cinntaile 5y ago
    You'll also enable it when your chat starts getting flooded with spam bots.
    - OtomotO 5y ago
      Na, I'll code a counter measure on stream and have fun with it. Or just leave twitch g Just an unimportant hobby, is all ;)
  - Kiro 5y ago
    It does however sound like you put the blame on Twitch. Streamers are demanding more ways to combat spam. The community wants more intrusive verification, not less.
    - OtomotO 5y ago
      There is no sound in written word. While I totally get what you mean (being a non native speaker), I don't care as much as I did. It's the same tone for me as was used on Discord. There it's also not discord, but the server owners (as I learned a few comments down) Apart from that: yes, I somehow blame the "give us your phonenumber approach". It's a lazy solution and a couple of years back, before the "war on terror/drugs/childporn/whatever" we used to get sim cards without r egistration and a DNA test (the later is a slight exaggeration ;)) And of course big companies such as Amazon or Discord love data such as the phone number. It's a super data point to link profiles across a variety of services
fourfour3 5y ago
Unfortunately a lot of twitch streamers get some very unpleasant spam attacks - things like racist chat flooding using bots. Requiring an account to be verified, or a follower, or in extreme cases a subscriber is the only practical response as twitch moderation tools are practically useless.
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unixhero 5y ago

Uhm that thing about the phone number is a totally losing battle. You should adapt by getting a burner phone with a separate number.

OtomotO 5y ago
Or I just don't use such services. I know it's not en vogue, but abstinence is one possible solution. I don't feel like having to pay 10€/year for a burner phone (so the SIM isn't deactivated) It's fine, I can live without most of these services just fine. And if I can't any longer, I will walk that bridge then.
- unixhero 5y ago
  How do you achieve multi factor auth at all then, if you regard tour phone number to be a secret.
  - OtomotO 5y ago
    I only have multi factor auth enabled for clients of mine Apart from that I use strong passwords. Wasn't hacked in over 20 years :)
    - unixhero 5y ago
      Your password can be as strong as it can possibly be, but a lot of services nowadays require MFA.
      - OtomotO 5y ago
        Correct and I don't use most of such services. I survived without them before, I will now. And I have more spare time then, to read, to exercise, to enjoy nature, to code...
  - commoner 5y ago
    TOTP does not require a phone number, and it's not vulnerable to SIM jacking.

haunter 5y ago

That's up to the broadcaster not Twitch, everyone can set on their own. https://i.imgur.com/im2JAkc.png https://i.imgur.com/im2JAkc.png

OtomotO 5y ago
Well aware. It's not the only stream I am interested in. Also similar to discord, because so far I wasn't forced to add a number there. Maybe it's not up to the server owner, but it's also not mandatory on the whole discord platform
- haunter 5y ago
  Up to the server owners https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/216679607-What-are-Verification-Levels- https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/216679607-What...
  - OtomotO 5y ago
    Thanks, so it's actually totally similar to Twitch. Also not very inclusive, if you ask me. I know people who have no phone on purpose :)

YuY7 5y ago

A lot of smaller Streamer only allow verified accounts only because there is a lot of spam happening and they don't have enough mods to deal with that

OtomotO 5y ago
Was the first small streamer with such a restriction for me. (Mostly following small streamers, being a tiny one myself ;)) That's totally fine, I am not mad at them, I understand their motives. It's then just simply not for me, is all.
- cinntaile 5y ago
  You'll also enable it when your chat starts getting flooded with spam bots.
  - OtomotO 5y ago
    Na, I'll code a counter measure on stream and have fun with it. Or just leave twitch g Just an unimportant hobby, is all ;)
- Kiro 5y ago
  It does however sound like you put the blame on Twitch. Streamers are demanding more ways to combat spam. The community wants more intrusive verification, not less.
  - OtomotO 5y ago
    There is no sound in written word. While I totally get what you mean (being a non native speaker), I don't care as much as I did. It's the same tone for me as was used on Discord. There it's also not discord, but the server owners (as I learned a few comments down) Apart from that: yes, I somehow blame the "give us your phonenumber approach". It's a lazy solution and a couple of years back, before the "war on terror/drugs/childporn/whatever" we used to get sim cards without r egistration and a DNA test (the later is a slight exaggeration ;)) And of course big companies such as Amazon or Discord love data such as the phone number. It's a super data point to link profiles across a variety of services

fourfour3 5y ago

Unfortunately a lot of twitch streamers get some very unpleasant spam attacks - things like racist chat flooding using bots. Requiring an account to be verified, or a follower, or in extreme cases a subscriber is the only practical response as twitch moderation tools are practically useless.

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