> available vaccines don't even seem to be good enough to give herd immunity at the moment AFAIAA, no COVID vaccines confer "immunity" - they confer resistance

> available vaccines don't even seem to be good enough to give herd immunity at the moment AFAIAA, no COVID vaccines confer "immunity" - they confer resistance. Vaccinated people can still catch and transmit COVID. The vaccines are effective at preventing you being hospitalised; this protects health services from being overwhelmed, and reduces the chance that you'll die. I don't think that even catching live COVID confers immunity. I imagine that live COVID confers better resistance than a vaccine, especially a vaccine such as these mRNA vaccines that target a specific spike protein. But I have no reliable source for that notion (/me not a doctor or researcher, just some dude on the internet!)