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Esim is a mature and excellent technology. This is overdue.

sz4kerto 5y ago
In my country the third major provider still doesn’t support it, the second (Vodafone) started supporting it in 2021. (EU member state.)
- vbo 5y ago
  They will if Apple does this.
- _1tan 5y ago
  Let me guess: Germany?
  - appplemac 5y ago
    Some providers in DE also don’t allow eSIM on prepaid plans - you have to be on a contract to be able to use eSIM at all (looking at you, Telekom).
    - durnygbur 5y ago
      <Telekom shows middle finger and charges your account 15 EUR processing fee>
- Leherenn 5y ago
  Well, if Apple really goes this way, you will see them support it pronto.
andybak 5y ago
> Esim is a mature and excellent technology. This is overdue. And this is the first time I've heard of it. (and in with https://xkcd.com/1053/ https://xkcd.com/1053/ before someone else does)
bryanrasmussen 5y ago
so, anything one can do if one wants to work with this technology on their own. I suppose an Asterisk extension or something, I tried searching for eSim on github but seems it's a pretty generic acronym for people to pick.
- Nextgrid 5y ago
  Nope, nothing you can do on your own. It still requires being a carrier and operating physical infrastructure. It's not VoIP.
pentae 5y ago
Not everywhere, as others in this thread have mentioned. As a frequent traveler I'll be probably holding onto the last physical sim iPhone for many years until everywhere I travel to has it all ironed out.
- playpause 5y ago
  They’ll iron it out pretty quickly if iPhones can’t use their network.
- rosndo 5y ago
  As a frequent traveler I can’t imagine going back to physical SIMs, now I can carry all my data plans on my phone and don’t have to waste time looking for a place to buy a prepaid plan. There are a ton of websites where you can immediately get esims for almost every country, why bother with physical sims?
  - throwDec21 5y ago
    Thanks. I never knew, plus I haven't troubled in 2 years :). What is a good recommendation?
    - rosndo 5y ago
      Airalo is the one I find myself using the most, amazing coverage and great support. I’ve probably used their sims in 30+ countries at this point, they’re even available in more exotic places like St Barthelemy or Moldova.
  - pentae 5y ago
    In some places the e-sim plans are inflated and poorer value compared to the deals on physical sim cards sold. For example the unlimited data plans might be only available by sim rather than purchasing data packs
    - rosndo 5y ago
      They’re rarely poorer value if your time is worth anything, if getting a prepaid SIM costs me a 30min detour I might as well be setting $100 on fire.

In my country the third major provider still doesn’t support it, the second (Vodafone) started supporting it in 2021. (EU member state.)

vbo 5y ago
They will if Apple does this.
_1tan 5y ago
Let me guess: Germany?
- appplemac 5y ago
  Some providers in DE also don’t allow eSIM on prepaid plans - you have to be on a contract to be able to use eSIM at all (looking at you, Telekom).
  - durnygbur 5y ago
    <Telekom shows middle finger and charges your account 15 EUR processing fee>
Leherenn 5y ago
Well, if Apple really goes this way, you will see them support it pronto.

andybak 5y ago

> Esim is a mature and excellent technology. This is overdue. And this is the first time I've heard of it. (and in with https://xkcd.com/1053/ https://xkcd.com/1053/ before someone else does)

bryanrasmussen 5y ago

so, anything one can do if one wants to work with this technology on their own. I suppose an Asterisk extension or something, I tried searching for eSim on github but seems it's a pretty generic acronym for people to pick.

Nextgrid 5y ago
Nope, nothing you can do on your own. It still requires being a carrier and operating physical infrastructure. It's not VoIP.

pentae 5y ago

Not everywhere, as others in this thread have mentioned. As a frequent traveler I'll be probably holding onto the last physical sim iPhone for many years until everywhere I travel to has it all ironed out.

playpause 5y ago
They’ll iron it out pretty quickly if iPhones can’t use their network.
rosndo 5y ago
As a frequent traveler I can’t imagine going back to physical SIMs, now I can carry all my data plans on my phone and don’t have to waste time looking for a place to buy a prepaid plan. There are a ton of websites where you can immediately get esims for almost every country, why bother with physical sims?
- throwDec21 5y ago
  Thanks. I never knew, plus I haven't troubled in 2 years :). What is a good recommendation?
  - rosndo 5y ago
    Airalo is the one I find myself using the most, amazing coverage and great support. I’ve probably used their sims in 30+ countries at this point, they’re even available in more exotic places like St Barthelemy or Moldova.
- pentae 5y ago
  In some places the e-sim plans are inflated and poorer value compared to the deals on physical sim cards sold. For example the unlimited data plans might be only available by sim rather than purchasing data packs
  - rosndo 5y ago
    They’re rarely poorer value if your time is worth anything, if getting a prepaid SIM costs me a 30min detour I might as well be setting $100 on fire.