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> You're already being tracked and listened to all the time No, I'm not, because my phone is as basic (read: lacking in capabilities) and locked down as I can

by pdonis 5y ago

> You're already being tracked and listened to all the time No, I'm not, because my phone is as basic (read: lacking in capabilities) and locked down as I can make it, my computers run Linux and don't have any intrusive software installed. So no, I'm not anywhere near as exposed to tracking as people who have these smart home devices in their homes.

ckdarby 5y ago
Yes, you might want to believe that is the case but having worked at an insanely popular site that does advertisement I can tell you that you are tracked. Then having worked in Fintech space I can tell you you're tracked even more than you could imagine. Do you take public transit? Tracked. Does your car offer OnStar? Can be tracked. Do you do zoom meetings? Compromised. But! You're going to tell me you only use the web version and you disable tons of things in some ultra secure browser. That is cute, what about your coworker who has some sketch software that captures audio and the screen? There was a company indirectly worked with that looked to have access to millions of voice signatures to identities. Let's say you talked near any non-secure device and now it knew where you were based off the non-secure device location. Welcome to the reality, Snowden's reveal was only the tip of the iceberg.
twobitshifter 5y ago
Even your basic phone results in your location being tracked since this is done through the cell towers. Whether any phone actively eavesdrops or “listens” is still an unconfirmed conspiracy, but in terms of basic phone calls and text messages, calls are all unencrypted and can be tapped and text messages are recorded. Even if calls aren’t recorded by default (they may be by nsa), there’s a record of the metadata of every phone call you’ve ever made or received.
- datavirtue 5y ago
  My 1997 surmise that phone companies were capable of using digital tech to analyze phone conversations was wholly conspiracy theory until it was proven true. If the capability is there, then so is the gravity to use it.

by pdonis 5y ago

ckdarby 5y ago

Yes, you might want to believe that is the case but having worked at an insanely popular site that does advertisement I can tell you that you are tracked. Then having worked in Fintech space I can tell you you're tracked even more than you could imagine. Do you take public transit? Tracked. Does your car offer OnStar? Can be tracked. Do you do zoom meetings? Compromised. But! You're going to tell me you only use the web version and you disable tons of things in some ultra secure browser. That is cute, what about your coworker who has some sketch software that captures audio and the screen? There was a company indirectly worked with that looked to have access to millions of voice signatures to identities. Let's say you talked near any non-secure device and now it knew where you were based off the non-secure device location. Welcome to the reality, Snowden's reveal was only the tip of the iceberg.

twobitshifter 5y ago

Even your basic phone results in your location being tracked since this is done through the cell towers. Whether any phone actively eavesdrops or “listens” is still an unconfirmed conspiracy, but in terms of basic phone calls and text messages, calls are all unencrypted and can be tapped and text messages are recorded. Even if calls aren’t recorded by default (they may be by nsa), there’s a record of the metadata of every phone call you’ve ever made or received.

datavirtue 5y ago
My 1997 surmise that phone companies were capable of using digital tech to analyze phone conversations was wholly conspiracy theory until it was proven true. If the capability is there, then so is the gravity to use it.