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It's illogical to conclude that because nowhere was it said that they are equally harmful. What you can conclude is that all companies are harmful in som

by KmVFIz 5y ago

It's *il*logical to conclude that because nowhere was it said that they are *equally* harmful. What you *can* conclude is that all companies are harmful in some aspect.

smt88 5y ago
> I can’t say this is really productive. This is equivalent to saying, "All companies are evil; everything is subjective; let's just give up." It may not be what the commenter intended, but that's what comes across.
- ozzythecat 5y ago
  > This is equivalent to saying, "All companies are evil; everything is subjective; let's just give up." That’s my comment you quoted, and I already flat out wrote that this isn’t what I’m saying. You might re-read what the original poster of this thread wrote, listing all the problems they see across a range of different industries and services. Since it’s not clear to you, and since you made a comment about actively trying to stop me from sharing my opinion because it “wastes peoples time”, I’ll try to explain again. Hopefully if you still disagree, you’ll just downvote me instead of continuing with your personal attacks at me. My point is that everyone has some set of values important to them. From a certain lens, you can find some fault or egregious (but perhaps legal) behavior in just about any large company. Corporations are complex. Even the best intentions result in some screw ups, or the leadership is well aware of an issue but does nothing because the bottom line is more important. Or maybe a certain issue coming to light may result in massive layoffs, etc etc. To say are there any good companies isn’t productive of a topic in itself. What are your values? Maybe you believe FB is evil because it’s leadership knew about the impact of its services on teens and their mental health. Or maybe you believe that FB simply offers a product, and as long as no immediate law is broken, parents and families should moderate their child’s access to social media.

It's *il*logical to conclude that because nowhere was it said that they are *equally* harmful. What you *can* conclude is that all companies are harmful in som

by KmVFIz 5y ago

It's *il*logical to conclude that because nowhere was it said that they are *equally* harmful. What you *can* conclude is that all companies are harmful in some aspect.

smt88 5y ago

> I can’t say this is really productive. This is equivalent to saying, "All companies are evil; everything is subjective; let's just give up." It may not be what the commenter intended, but that's what comes across.

ozzythecat 5y ago
> This is equivalent to saying, "All companies are evil; everything is subjective; let's just give up." That’s my comment you quoted, and I already flat out wrote that this isn’t what I’m saying. You might re-read what the original poster of this thread wrote, listing all the problems they see across a range of different industries and services. Since it’s not clear to you, and since you made a comment about actively trying to stop me from sharing my opinion because it “wastes peoples time”, I’ll try to explain again. Hopefully if you still disagree, you’ll just downvote me instead of continuing with your personal attacks at me. My point is that everyone has some set of values important to them. From a certain lens, you can find some fault or egregious (but perhaps legal) behavior in just about any large company. Corporations are complex. Even the best intentions result in some screw ups, or the leadership is well aware of an issue but does nothing because the bottom line is more important. Or maybe a certain issue coming to light may result in massive layoffs, etc etc. To say are there any good companies isn’t productive of a topic in itself. What are your values? Maybe you believe FB is evil because it’s leadership knew about the impact of its services on teens and their mental health. Or maybe you believe that FB simply offers a product, and as long as no immediate law is broken, parents and families should moderate their child’s access to social media.