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I wonder why this isn't used to store power in a battery that's used for IoT devices?

spoonjim 5y ago
Size and power? One cubic foot of air generates 3.6 microwatt hours. This clock is a lot more efficient than an Arduino! Also, temperature controlled environments might not have a 6 degree day to night cycle.
kibwen 5y ago
My math might be utterly wrong, but it looks like a Teensy in sleep mode consumes 0.23 milliamps at 3.3 volts, which comes out to 66 joules per day. The OP mentions that the mechanism provides about 13 millijoules per day, which is 5,000 times lower.
- lmilcin 5y ago
  Teensy is nowhere close to most power efficient options out there. A power efficient arm can be running on micro or even nanoamps in sleep mode. It will of course depend on the rest of the circuit surrounding MCU. I use STM L4 for my projects. https://www.st.com/resource/en/product_training/STM32L4_System_Power.pdf https://www.st.com/resource/en/product_training/STM32L4_Syst... On page 4 it says down to 30nA with I/O wakeup, 350nA with 32kB memory retained.
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walrus01 5y ago
you would probably get a lot more energy in cumulative milliwatt-hours per week/month from having a tiny 2 x 1cm size photovoltaic cell such as from a cheap desk calculator exposed to ambient room light, and something like that has no moving parts. if we are talking about actual practical IoT things a single "big" solar cell (125x125 or 156x156mm) size is quite cheap, and you'd run the output of the PV cell directly into a tiny battery charge controller circuit configured to keep one 18650 or 21700 size battery at its float voltage.
paxys 5y ago
Too little energy and too unreliable. The article mentions that this clock stops sometimes and needs to be manually readjusted once it is back.
pugworthy 5y ago
I guess that tire pressure sensors use batteries. Always seems like they should just be able to harvest power when you're driving, and have plenty of juice to get past the idle times.

Size and power? One cubic foot of air generates 3.6 microwatt hours. This clock is a lot more efficient than an Arduino! Also, temperature controlled environments might not have a 6 degree day to night cycle.

kibwen 5y ago

My math might be utterly wrong, but it looks like a Teensy in sleep mode consumes 0.23 milliamps at 3.3 volts, which comes out to 66 joules per day. The OP mentions that the mechanism provides about 13 millijoules per day, which is 5,000 times lower.

lmilcin 5y ago
Teensy is nowhere close to most power efficient options out there. A power efficient arm can be running on micro or even nanoamps in sleep mode. It will of course depend on the rest of the circuit surrounding MCU. I use STM L4 for my projects. https://www.st.com/resource/en/product_training/STM32L4_System_Power.pdf https://www.st.com/resource/en/product_training/STM32L4_Syst... On page 4 it says down to 30nA with I/O wakeup, 350nA with 32kB memory retained.
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walrus01 5y ago

you would probably get a lot more energy in cumulative milliwatt-hours per week/month from having a tiny 2 x 1cm size photovoltaic cell such as from a cheap desk calculator exposed to ambient room light, and something like that has no moving parts. if we are talking about actual practical IoT things a single "big" solar cell (125x125 or 156x156mm) size is quite cheap, and you'd run the output of the PV cell directly into a tiny battery charge controller circuit configured to keep one 18650 or 21700 size battery at its float voltage.

paxys 5y ago

Too little energy and too unreliable. The article mentions that this clock stops sometimes and needs to be manually readjusted once it is back.

pugworthy 5y ago

I guess that tire pressure sensors use batteries. Always seems like they should just be able to harvest power when you're driving, and have plenty of juice to get past the idle times.