Same experience here, I wouldn't be able to get off the ground without those templates. Plus updating can be a nightmare, if you regularly update and the build

Same experience here, I wouldn't be able to get off the ground without those templates. Plus updating can be a nightmare, if you regularly update and the build breaks then it's easy to find out what caused it, however a few months down the line be prepared to spend significant time figuring out what broke again and how to fix it.