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> Web3, also known as Web 3.0, is an idea for a new iteration of the World Wide Web Cool, cool... > that incorporates decentralization based on blockchains k

by gred 5y ago

> Web3, also known as Web 3.0, is an idea for a new iteration of the World Wide Web Cool, cool... > that incorporates decentralization based on blockchains k bye

johnisgood 5y ago
Yeah, the Web is supposed to be decentralized from Web 1.0, right? Or is this wrong?
- root_axis 5y ago
  It's supposed to be, and it is. Every domain points to a different node in the decentralized web. Just because some nodes are massively popular doesn't mean the technology is not decentralized. Popular nodes will always exist in every decentralized vision of the internet.
  - johnisgood 5y ago
    Yeah, so... why on Earth do people keep saying that it is centralized? I understand that for some there is nothing beyond Facebook, but that has to do with Facebook apps on the smartphones, restrictions or limitations at the smartphone-level, ISP-level, and so forth. Regardless, it is decentralized, so what is this decentralization based on blockchain bullshit? Do we need it? What problem does it solve? I hope that the problem it solves (if any) has not been created beforehand.
    - root_axis 5y ago
      I would argue it's demonstrably wrong to say that the web isn't decentralized, however the thing about web3 is that it means a dozen different things to different people. For some it's all about a vision of the web where everything is gated behind cryptocurrency payments, for some it's a world where websites, apps, and games rely on blockchain data instead of self-hosted DBs, for others it's a world where most software vendors have acquiesced to a business model where all digital products are minted as NFTs. There are many other visions, but in my view, all these ideas have glaring problems that make them fundamentally unworkable.
    - acdha 5y ago
      > Yeah, so... why on Earth do people keep saying that it is centralized? Cryptocurrency culture fosters dishonesty: billions of dollars have been poured in by people who think it’s an investment they’ll get a large return from. The only way they profit is from other people putting real money in, which means everyone involved has to be a marketer. That’s why crappy generative artwork will get talked up as nauseum, people will wax rhapsodic about logging in using a third-party service, etc.: the people saying that know they will lose money if the rest of us don’t agree that their random hashes are worth more than they put in.
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sidpatil 5y ago
> Web 3.0 In my mind, Web 3.0 was synonymous with the Semantic Web.
- kinow 5y ago
  Same here. After web 2.0, next one was supposed to be about the semantic web.
- thrower123 5y ago
  Right, we're somewhere up around Angular or React version numbers of web.X at this point
- contravariant 5y ago
  Some of the arguments here fill me with good hope that the semantic web is going to be the next revolution. After all, it very much feels like a revolution with the amount of people saying it'll never work.
- throwaway2016a 5y ago
  So true. It's funny that the Web 3 folks just coopted that phrase from the Semantic Web. And the Semantic Web was/is an actual useful building block on top of the current web whereas blockchain based Web 3 is a side step using entirely different protocols and paradigms.

by gred 5y ago

> Web3, also known as Web 3.0, is an idea for a new iteration of the World Wide Web Cool, cool... > that incorporates decentralization based on blockchains k bye

johnisgood 5y ago

Yeah, the Web is supposed to be decentralized from Web 1.0, right? Or is this wrong?

root_axis 5y ago
It's supposed to be, and it is. Every domain points to a different node in the decentralized web. Just because some nodes are massively popular doesn't mean the technology is not decentralized. Popular nodes will always exist in every decentralized vision of the internet.
- johnisgood 5y ago
  Yeah, so... why on Earth do people keep saying that it is centralized? I understand that for some there is nothing beyond Facebook, but that has to do with Facebook apps on the smartphones, restrictions or limitations at the smartphone-level, ISP-level, and so forth. Regardless, it is decentralized, so what is this decentralization based on blockchain bullshit? Do we need it? What problem does it solve? I hope that the problem it solves (if any) has not been created beforehand.
  - root_axis 5y ago
    I would argue it's demonstrably wrong to say that the web isn't decentralized, however the thing about web3 is that it means a dozen different things to different people. For some it's all about a vision of the web where everything is gated behind cryptocurrency payments, for some it's a world where websites, apps, and games rely on blockchain data instead of self-hosted DBs, for others it's a world where most software vendors have acquiesced to a business model where all digital products are minted as NFTs. There are many other visions, but in my view, all these ideas have glaring problems that make them fundamentally unworkable.
  - acdha 5y ago
    > Yeah, so... why on Earth do people keep saying that it is centralized? Cryptocurrency culture fosters dishonesty: billions of dollars have been poured in by people who think it’s an investment they’ll get a large return from. The only way they profit is from other people putting real money in, which means everyone involved has to be a marketer. That’s why crappy generative artwork will get talked up as nauseum, people will wax rhapsodic about logging in using a third-party service, etc.: the people saying that know they will lose money if the rest of us don’t agree that their random hashes are worth more than they put in.
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sidpatil 5y ago

> Web 3.0 In my mind, Web 3.0 was synonymous with the Semantic Web.

kinow 5y ago
Same here. After web 2.0, next one was supposed to be about the semantic web.
thrower123 5y ago
Right, we're somewhere up around Angular or React version numbers of web.X at this point
contravariant 5y ago
Some of the arguments here fill me with good hope that the semantic web is going to be the next revolution. After all, it very much feels like a revolution with the amount of people saying it'll never work.
throwaway2016a 5y ago
So true. It's funny that the Web 3 folks just coopted that phrase from the Semantic Web. And the Semantic Web was/is an actual useful building block on top of the current web whereas blockchain based Web 3 is a side step using entirely different protocols and paradigms.