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You’re getting downvoted because you appear to be guessing, even though you’re right…suicides and overdoses did indeed go up.

woodruffw 5y ago
As I cited elsewhere in the thread: suicides went down in 2020, not up[1]. Drug overdose deaths are indeed up[2]. But they're an order of magnitude below COVID deaths, even before adjusting for undercounting. [1]: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsrr/VSRR016.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsrr/VSRR016.pdf [2]: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2021/20211117.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2021/...
- disambiguation 5y ago
  I wonder what the median age for overdose deaths are compared to covid deaths.
  - woodruffw 5y ago
    I don't know how recent these numbers are, but the 25-44 and 45-54 male demographics are apparently over-represented in overdose deaths[1]. It's similarly hard to find up-to-date median age statistics for COVID deaths (and this is particularly troublesome, since the median age for COVID deaths should intuitively decrease over time), but the primary demographic seems to be >65 in most developed countries[2]. Interestingly, from that same source, it's lower in developing and undeveloped countries. [1]: https://www.projectknow.com/discover/the-age-of-overdose/ https://www.projectknow.com/discover/the-age-of-overdose/ [2]: https://blogs.worldbank.org/developmenttalk/too-young-die-age-and-death-covid-19-around-globe https://blogs.worldbank.org/developmenttalk/too-young-die-ag...
- DyslexicAtheist 5y ago
  ending it with an overdose does sound like a very accessible and "clean" method to end life if you're either an addict or even for non addicts who have access to hard drugs. And how many of those who are addicts engage in "suicidal ideation". Is a an addict that ends themselves statistically counted as a drug casualty and at what point do we see them as just another human being that decided to end their life. For all we know the drug might have been the only reason that kept them from not committing suicide much sooner (and while sober). it seems an odd line to draw IMO
  - kayodelycaon 5y ago
    I don’t have any sources at hand but in Cincinnati, but a lot of the overdoses here are accidents from fentanyl being mixed into less powerful drugs.

woodruffw 5y ago

As I cited elsewhere in the thread: suicides went down in 2020, not up[1]. Drug overdose deaths are indeed up[2]. But they're an order of magnitude below COVID deaths, even before adjusting for undercounting. [1]: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsrr/VSRR016.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsrr/VSRR016.pdf [2]: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2021/20211117.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2021/...

disambiguation 5y ago
I wonder what the median age for overdose deaths are compared to covid deaths.
- woodruffw 5y ago
  I don't know how recent these numbers are, but the 25-44 and 45-54 male demographics are apparently over-represented in overdose deaths[1]. It's similarly hard to find up-to-date median age statistics for COVID deaths (and this is particularly troublesome, since the median age for COVID deaths should intuitively decrease over time), but the primary demographic seems to be >65 in most developed countries[2]. Interestingly, from that same source, it's lower in developing and undeveloped countries. [1]: https://www.projectknow.com/discover/the-age-of-overdose/ https://www.projectknow.com/discover/the-age-of-overdose/ [2]: https://blogs.worldbank.org/developmenttalk/too-young-die-age-and-death-covid-19-around-globe https://blogs.worldbank.org/developmenttalk/too-young-die-ag...
DyslexicAtheist 5y ago
ending it with an overdose does sound like a very accessible and "clean" method to end life if you're either an addict or even for non addicts who have access to hard drugs. And how many of those who are addicts engage in "suicidal ideation". Is a an addict that ends themselves statistically counted as a drug casualty and at what point do we see them as just another human being that decided to end their life. For all we know the drug might have been the only reason that kept them from not committing suicide much sooner (and while sober). it seems an odd line to draw IMO
- kayodelycaon 5y ago
  I don’t have any sources at hand but in Cincinnati, but a lot of the overdoses here are accidents from fentanyl being mixed into less powerful drugs.