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So basically destroy rural populations which are also the source of all our food? Unless I’m mistaken in that cities are actually the source of all life sustain

So basically destroy rural populations which are also the source of all our food? Unless I’m mistaken in that cities are actually the source of all life sustaining industries.

pm90 5y ago
Enough with the hyperbole. Discouraging car use won’t destroy rural populations; it would improve the QoL of urban ones.
- aronpye 5y ago
  You can’t survive in a rural area without a car
  - pm90 5y ago
    The parent said: > Maybe, similarly discouraging car y use and encouraging walking is a good thing. That policy won’t take cars away from the rural populace.
  - wbsss4412 5y ago
    Is discouraging synonymous with destroying in your lexicon? Most people don’t live in rural areas and most deadly accidents don’t occur in rural areas either. Discouraging car use in cities has next to no effect on rural populations.
    - aronpye 5y ago
      Approx 19.3% of Americans live in rural areas, and a higher proportion of rural residents are in poverty. Therefore, measures to discourage car use are likely to disproportionally adversely impact some of the poorest in society. Unless those measures somehow completely avoid affecting rural populations. I’d support city only measures like a city income tax to fund public transportation and conversion of stroads to pedestrian friendly streets. But what is likely to happen are general taxations on car users such as fuel duty and onerous regulations which push up the cost of car ownership. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rural_areas_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rural_areas_in_the_United_Stat...
      - wbsss4412 5y ago
        You’re making a lot of assumptions as to what “discouraging car use” entails. We both agreed that rural areas would not be a good place to target such policies, so why assume I was saying we should push policies that are overly broad?
- Auracle 5y ago
  How would you discourage car use? Taxes?
  - wbsss4412 5y ago
    Realistically? Changing planning rules that require tons of extra parking, wide roads, and overbuilt freeways. Current policies induce demand and make it difficult to promote transit and other modes.

So basically destroy rural populations which are also the source of all our food? Unless I’m mistaken in that cities are actually the source of all life sustaining industries.

pm90 5y ago

Enough with the hyperbole. Discouraging car use won’t destroy rural populations; it would improve the QoL of urban ones.

aronpye 5y ago
You can’t survive in a rural area without a car
- pm90 5y ago
  The parent said: > Maybe, similarly discouraging car y use and encouraging walking is a good thing. That policy won’t take cars away from the rural populace.
- wbsss4412 5y ago
  Is discouraging synonymous with destroying in your lexicon? Most people don’t live in rural areas and most deadly accidents don’t occur in rural areas either. Discouraging car use in cities has next to no effect on rural populations.
  - aronpye 5y ago
    Approx 19.3% of Americans live in rural areas, and a higher proportion of rural residents are in poverty. Therefore, measures to discourage car use are likely to disproportionally adversely impact some of the poorest in society. Unless those measures somehow completely avoid affecting rural populations. I’d support city only measures like a city income tax to fund public transportation and conversion of stroads to pedestrian friendly streets. But what is likely to happen are general taxations on car users such as fuel duty and onerous regulations which push up the cost of car ownership. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rural_areas_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rural_areas_in_the_United_Stat...
    - wbsss4412 5y ago
      You’re making a lot of assumptions as to what “discouraging car use” entails. We both agreed that rural areas would not be a good place to target such policies, so why assume I was saying we should push policies that are overly broad?
Auracle 5y ago
How would you discourage car use? Taxes?
- wbsss4412 5y ago
  Realistically? Changing planning rules that require tons of extra parking, wide roads, and overbuilt freeways. Current policies induce demand and make it difficult to promote transit and other modes.