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Citation on suicide rates increasing 50%?

by kozd 5y ago

lettergram 5y ago
> Emergency room visits for suspected suicide attempts among girls between the ages of 12 and 17 increased by 26% during summer 2020 and by 50% during winter 2021, compared with the same periods in 2019, researchers from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found. However, ER trips related to suspected suicide attempts among boys that same age and young adults aged 18 to 25 remained stable during the pandemic. > The researchers noted a 31% increase in the proportion of mental health-related emergency department visits that occurred among teenagers in 2020, compared with the year before. https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-06-11/big-rise-in-suicide-attempts-by-us-teen-girls-during-pandemic https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-06-11/... Now, is it accurate? I'm not sure. Do those result in deaths? I'm also not sure, it might be reduced deaths due to more people home. I honestly have no idea.
- xenocratus 5y ago
  .... So you just stated the highest number you saw, that applied to a small chunk of the population, for a limited timeframe, only for ER visits, as "the increase in suicides" (with no extra qualifiers)?
- Kranar 5y ago
  If you have no idea then don't make such a bold and unqualified claim.
- woodruffw 5y ago
  It's worth noting that both adolescent boys and girls make up a minority of overall suicide attempts (and actual deaths by suicide)[1]. Most actual suicides are by middle-aged men. Rises in adolescent harm are deeply concerning, and are undoubtedly partially attributable to the stresses of the last 18 months. But they aren't a statistical driver, and CDC statistics actually show a decrease in the number of suicides in 2020[2]. And that's probably for the reason you mentioned: more bodies under the same roof means that it's harder for people to take their lives. So to summarize: fewer people died by suicide in 2020 than did in 2019, and we can't extrapolate overall suicide trends from just adolescents. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_the_United_States#/media/File:US_Suicide_Rate_by_Age.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_the_United_States#/... [2]: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsrr/VSRR016.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsrr/VSRR016.pdf

Citation on suicide rates increasing 50%?

by kozd 5y ago

Citation on suicide rates increasing 50%?

> Emergency room visits for suspected suicide attempts among girls between the ages of 12 and 17 increased by 26% during summer 2020 and by 50% during winter 2021, compared with the same periods in 2019, researchers from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found. However, ER trips related to suspected suicide attempts among boys that same age and young adults aged 18 to 25 remained stable during the pandemic. > The researchers noted a 31% increase in the proportion of mental health-related emergency department visits that occurred among teenagers in 2020, compared with the year before. https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-06-11/big-rise-in-suicide-attempts-by-us-teen-girls-during-pandemic https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-06-11/... Now, is it accurate? I'm not sure. Do those result in deaths? I'm also not sure, it might be reduced deaths due to more people home. I honestly have no idea.

xenocratus 5y ago
.... So you just stated the highest number you saw, that applied to a small chunk of the population, for a limited timeframe, only for ER visits, as "the increase in suicides" (with no extra qualifiers)?
Kranar 5y ago
If you have no idea then don't make such a bold and unqualified claim.
woodruffw 5y ago
It's worth noting that both adolescent boys and girls make up a minority of overall suicide attempts (and actual deaths by suicide)[1]. Most actual suicides are by middle-aged men. Rises in adolescent harm are deeply concerning, and are undoubtedly partially attributable to the stresses of the last 18 months. But they aren't a statistical driver, and CDC statistics actually show a decrease in the number of suicides in 2020[2]. And that's probably for the reason you mentioned: more bodies under the same roof means that it's harder for people to take their lives. So to summarize: fewer people died by suicide in 2020 than did in 2019, and we can't extrapolate overall suicide trends from just adolescents. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_the_United_States#/media/File:US_Suicide_Rate_by_Age.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_the_United_States#/... [2]: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsrr/VSRR016.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsrr/VSRR016.pdf