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> In this case god-hating atheists confirm the existence of god in the form of 'concept' you may say. C'mon, no atheist is remotely claiming that God doesn't e
by alecbz 5y ago
> In this case god-hating atheists confirm the existence of god in the form of 'concept' you may say.
C'mon, no atheist is remotely claiming that God doesn't exist even as a concept. You can't possibly think this is what any atheist ever meant?
On the face of it it's almost impossible to claim that something doesn't exist as a concept, since making such a claim creates the concept. Some atheists might claim there are logical inconsistencies in the concept of God, but that's still different from claiming the concept doesn't exist.
- aristofun 5y ago> C'mon, no atheist is remotely claiming that God doesn't exist even as a concept. You can't possibly think this is what any atheist ever meant? Personally I don’t care neither abou atheists nor about religious people in general. I was just answering the question.
- alecbz 5y ago> I was just answering the question. But you misinterpreted what "exists" means in this context.
- aristofun 5y agoAnd what does it mean exactly?
- alecbz 5y agoExisting in a more tangible sense, not existing as a concept.
- aristofun 5y agoOkay, and why exactly existing as a concept is less important for this argument? Additional question — what religions do you know that explicitly state the existence of god in materialistic sense and not as a non tangible ideal (hence the word idea by the way)? Please try to answer deeply and not just critisize me for hating atheists, I am not, I just point out very simple but overlooked details that are crucial for such discussions.