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Please explain how being a god-hating atheist is spiritual I think if god-hating atheists do exist it’s an inherent contradiction. Perhaps you are confusing pe

Please explain how being a god-hating atheist is spiritual I think if god-hating atheists do exist it’s an inherent contradiction. Perhaps you are confusing people who practice “satanism” mostly as a way to troll religious people as god-hating. There are definitely anti-religion atheists but I don’t see how that is spiritual.

aristofun 5y ago
> Please explain how being a god-hating atheist is spiritual To hate god, firstly you have to admit his existence in one way or another. Hence, spirituality, even with "minus" sign.
- opportune 5y ago
  No offense, but this seems like more of how a religious person understands atheism than what atheists actually think. A religious person may perceive an atheist as “god hating” when they are merely “religion hating” or perhaps making fun of your god/the existence of a god.
  - aristofun 5y ago
    No, it's just simple logic. If you hate something that doesn't exist, your are either making no sense or must imply the existence (in some form). Think about it deeply.
    - yibg 5y ago
      “God hating atheists” don’t hate the actual God, it doesn’t exist. The hate is directed toward the concept of god, which is definitely real.
      - aristofun 5y ago
        But what's actual difference between God and concept of God? This is rethorical question, 'cause there is no easy answer, and yet my original statement is valid. In this case god-hating atheists confirm the existence of god in the form of 'concept' you may say.
        yibg 5y ago
        I don't really understand, seems like there is a very easy answer. In the case of belief I would've thought that's obvious. I can be afraid of zombies without believing zombies exist. I don't think anyone denies the existence of the concept of god. I'm an atheist, but of course the concept of god exists. People believe in it, it can and has been talked about. Seems like you're equating the concept of god (i.e. people's beliefs), with the actual entity of God (i.e. the man in the sky that created everything).
        alecbz 5y ago
        > In this case god-hating atheists confirm the existence of god in the form of 'concept' you may say. C'mon, no atheist is remotely claiming that God doesn't exist even as a concept. You can't possibly think this is what any atheist ever meant? On the face of it it's almost impossible to claim that something doesn't exist as a concept, since making such a claim creates the concept. Some atheists might claim there are logical inconsistencies in the concept of God, but that's still different from claiming the concept doesn't exist.
        aristofun 5y ago
        > C'mon, no atheist is remotely claiming that God doesn't exist even as a concept. You can't possibly think this is what any atheist ever meant? Personally I don’t care neither abou atheists nor about religious people in general. I was just answering the question.
        alecbz 5y ago
        > I was just answering the question. But you misinterpreted what "exists" means in this context.
        aristofun 5y ago
        And what does it mean exactly?

aristofun 5y ago

> Please explain how being a god-hating atheist is spiritual To hate god, firstly you have to admit his existence in one way or another. Hence, spirituality, even with "minus" sign.

opportune 5y ago
No offense, but this seems like more of how a religious person understands atheism than what atheists actually think. A religious person may perceive an atheist as “god hating” when they are merely “religion hating” or perhaps making fun of your god/the existence of a god.
- aristofun 5y ago
  No, it's just simple logic. If you hate something that doesn't exist, your are either making no sense or must imply the existence (in some form). Think about it deeply.
  - yibg 5y ago
    “God hating atheists” don’t hate the actual God, it doesn’t exist. The hate is directed toward the concept of god, which is definitely real.
    - aristofun 5y ago
      But what's actual difference between God and concept of God? This is rethorical question, 'cause there is no easy answer, and yet my original statement is valid. In this case god-hating atheists confirm the existence of god in the form of 'concept' you may say.
      - yibg 5y ago
        I don't really understand, seems like there is a very easy answer. In the case of belief I would've thought that's obvious. I can be afraid of zombies without believing zombies exist. I don't think anyone denies the existence of the concept of god. I'm an atheist, but of course the concept of god exists. People believe in it, it can and has been talked about. Seems like you're equating the concept of god (i.e. people's beliefs), with the actual entity of God (i.e. the man in the sky that created everything).
      - alecbz 5y ago
        > In this case god-hating atheists confirm the existence of god in the form of 'concept' you may say. C'mon, no atheist is remotely claiming that God doesn't exist even as a concept. You can't possibly think this is what any atheist ever meant? On the face of it it's almost impossible to claim that something doesn't exist as a concept, since making such a claim creates the concept. Some atheists might claim there are logical inconsistencies in the concept of God, but that's still different from claiming the concept doesn't exist.
        aristofun 5y ago
        > C'mon, no atheist is remotely claiming that God doesn't exist even as a concept. You can't possibly think this is what any atheist ever meant? Personally I don’t care neither abou atheists nor about religious people in general. I was just answering the question.
        alecbz 5y ago
        > I was just answering the question. But you misinterpreted what "exists" means in this context.
        aristofun 5y ago
        And what does it mean exactly?