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This point is being made each year again and again, that it is getting more and more political. I also had that impression myself. However, I was surprised to

This point is being made each year again and again, that it is getting more and more political. I also had that impression myself. However, I was surprised to see some actual statistics that it was already political right from the beginning (sorry, no ref, I barely remember). And there are always also a lot of technical talks. It is not really phased out. Maybe just some of the political talks get more attention. Or the attention to political content increases. Or maybe my own attention to political topics, and I just ignored that earlier. But when you look for technical content (at least on a regular C3), there is plenty.

luckylion 5y ago
I believe the argument isn't that there was zero politics before, but that it was creative/technical, and oh, we also have some political talks. And now it's politics, and oh, yeah, we still have a few technical talks.
- YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo 5y ago
  the problem is that you are pretending to care now. it was always the fact especially if you take in regards the founders like Wau holland. I don't even know what you really expect from the ccc since it's very first datenkrake it was left leaning. Maybe the Club isn't something for you.
  - luckylion 5y ago
    > the problem is that you are pretending to care now. No need to be hostile. I haven't attacked you or anyone else. I never said they didn't have political opinions, it just didn't seem to be politics first. That has changed over the last decade or so, I'm guessing it's a generational shift. I'm fine with that and I'm not asking anyone to change anything. Calm down.
    - YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo 5y ago
      There is always this huge perception difference of people that only attend congresses online or per streaming. If you would have been on location for any of the congresses you know how the overall vibe would be rather political than not.
- monocasa 5y ago
  I had a technical talk I was planning on giving, but am saving for when I can be in person. I wouldn't be surprised if I wasn't alone in that.
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- miskid 5y ago
  The distribution of topics really seems to be about the same. What seems to be missing are the "hacker celebrity" and research talks. But as far as I have seen the bulk of talks have always been similar to those this year. They just don't get the big crowds.

luckylion 5y ago

I believe the argument isn't that there was zero politics before, but that it was creative/technical, and oh, we also have some political talks. And now it's politics, and oh, yeah, we still have a few technical talks.

YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo 5y ago
the problem is that you are pretending to care now. it was always the fact especially if you take in regards the founders like Wau holland. I don't even know what you really expect from the ccc since it's very first datenkrake it was left leaning. Maybe the Club isn't something for you.
- luckylion 5y ago
  > the problem is that you are pretending to care now. No need to be hostile. I haven't attacked you or anyone else. I never said they didn't have political opinions, it just didn't seem to be politics first. That has changed over the last decade or so, I'm guessing it's a generational shift. I'm fine with that and I'm not asking anyone to change anything. Calm down.
  - YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo 5y ago
    There is always this huge perception difference of people that only attend congresses online or per streaming. If you would have been on location for any of the congresses you know how the overall vibe would be rather political than not.
monocasa 5y ago
I had a technical talk I was planning on giving, but am saving for when I can be in person. I wouldn't be surprised if I wasn't alone in that.
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miskid 5y ago
The distribution of topics really seems to be about the same. What seems to be missing are the "hacker celebrity" and research talks. But as far as I have seen the bulk of talks have always been similar to those this year. They just don't get the big crowds.