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I want this for Android. If something like Android 2.x or 4.x would get a security update and I could run normal apps on it, I'd switch back in a heartbeat. Ba
by lucb1e 5y ago
I want this for Android. If something like Android 2.x or 4.x would get a security update and I could run normal apps on it, I'd switch back in a heartbeat.
Back then, the enhancement community was huge. Every Android version since then has seen fewer and fewer enhancements because they just keep getting broken over and over again by some new OS requirement. New versions require you to turn off permanent notifications for every application that needs to do anything in the background (signal, wire, email, etc.); I can no longer modify the status bar because the developer for that mod gave up after Android 8 and I can't find a new one; I can't slide over the notification bar to adjust brightness (useful when the screen is too dim to see the brightness slider); the concept of just returning an empty contacts list instead of breaking the app by denying a permission is gone; etc.
Just look at the number of workarounds OsmAnd needs to apply and tell users about to keep track recording working, you can ctrl+f for nearly every android version and find remarks like "No good solution found for now. Current mitigation is we do not use AlarmManager wake-up, instead keep GPS always on": https://docs.osmand.net/en/main@latest/osmand/troubleshooting/track-recording-issues https://docs.osmand.net/en/main@latest/osmand/troubleshootin... (Of course, Google has no problem keeping location history for you. Only if you want to store it locally...)
As a developer I will concede that many of the new APIs are so much nicer than the ones available for Android 4 so I do understand people drop support for it.
Another thing is that battery drain of garbage apps is a real problem, but similar to the Win2k style OS proposal, this isn't meant for the mainstream. The mainstream can have their OS manage things for them, but as a power user that knows how to run 'htop' I'd really rather just manage my own device by myself.
- spaetzleesser 5y agoA Nexus 7 tablet with up to date CPU and storage plus a patched Android 4 would be an absolute winner.
- smm11 5y agoI'd just like it if my S21 didn't delete any downloads over 25 gigs randomly, before I can move them off the phone.
- agumonkey 5y agoevery time I run an android 4 device that is not too slow, i feel a big relief android 8+ do massively fancy trick .. but it feels as sexy as noisy
- philistine 5y agoJohn Gruber's theory is that Google is disinterested in running Android, and that's why it's suffering so much. What do you think?
- lucb1e 5y agoWhy ask me? I'm not really into the politics of whether Google is interested in "running" Android (clearly they are doing it and getting massive gains from having the most popular OS on the planet, what even is it supposed to mean that they're not "interested" or "running it") or who John is. I'm just a humble user that would like control of the device that touches on so many aspects of life.