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Hmm. If someone came over to my house with their toddler and asked me to attach all of my furniture I'd think they're being way overprotective of their child. I

by spurgu 5y ago

Hmm. If someone came over to my house with their toddler and asked me to attach all of my furniture I'd think they're being way overprotective of their child. I'd try to talk them out of it, through their irrational fears and remind them that life is full of dangers and trying to shield their children from all of them will be an impossible task which would only be detrimental to the child's development. If they insisted I might go for it (temporarily taping, not screwing), reluctantly, if they were close friends (I'd accept their neuroticism). For every stranger? Never. I don't have the morals and empathy of Jesus. Then again there was some stories about leprocy, some story about not being afraid, accepting them, hmm...

SamoyedFurFluff 5y ago
But it’s so common that a ton of furniture explicitly comes with screw-into-wall equipment explicitly for this edge case. There has been enough public pressure from a few number of tragic and very preventable deaths that now lots of furniture comes with this or instructs that it’s recommended to do so. I consider wanting your child to be vaccinated to protect against the edge case of severe disease to be within the same category: society broadly allows for great protectiveness for children in the case of easily preventable death.
- spurgu 5y ago
  Ha, yes! We seem to be on the same line here. Supplying furniture with optional attachments seems like a good middle way. I would never make it mandatory to do so though but it's great to have the public discourse leading to producers giving consumers the option. Once kids go from toddlers to starting walking and understanding the world around them though I think it's very important to teach them to be careful about - but actively use - things like knives, scissors, hot stoves etc. Then you don't have to constantly worry about them and they'll grow up to be capable and responsible individuals. So yeah, I suppose my initial reaction was more towards the latter point of helicopter parenting, not the first one of protecting toddlers.
  - SamoyedFurFluff 5y ago
    I think we are on the same line except im merely saying that it’s considered socially acceptable for a parent to over correct for easily preventable death, which very likely includes “wear a mask and socially distance from my child, who isn’t old enough to take a treatment that will drastically reduce their already reduced chance for severe illness”. I think I’m being broadly misunderstood as somehow advocating much more strongly than I actually am. I’m merely saying that certain populations may very reasonably advocate for their specific circumstance when it comes to resisting going back “to normal”. I hope that makes sense.

by spurgu 5y ago

SamoyedFurFluff 5y ago

But it’s so common that a ton of furniture explicitly comes with screw-into-wall equipment explicitly for this edge case. There has been enough public pressure from a few number of tragic and very preventable deaths that now lots of furniture comes with this or instructs that it’s recommended to do so. I consider wanting your child to be vaccinated to protect against the edge case of severe disease to be within the same category: society broadly allows for great protectiveness for children in the case of easily preventable death.

spurgu 5y ago
Ha, yes! We seem to be on the same line here. Supplying furniture with optional attachments seems like a good middle way. I would never make it mandatory to do so though but it's great to have the public discourse leading to producers giving consumers the option. Once kids go from toddlers to starting walking and understanding the world around them though I think it's very important to teach them to be careful about - but actively use - things like knives, scissors, hot stoves etc. Then you don't have to constantly worry about them and they'll grow up to be capable and responsible individuals. So yeah, I suppose my initial reaction was more towards the latter point of helicopter parenting, not the first one of protecting toddlers.
- SamoyedFurFluff 5y ago
  I think we are on the same line except im merely saying that it’s considered socially acceptable for a parent to over correct for easily preventable death, which very likely includes “wear a mask and socially distance from my child, who isn’t old enough to take a treatment that will drastically reduce their already reduced chance for severe illness”. I think I’m being broadly misunderstood as somehow advocating much more strongly than I actually am. I’m merely saying that certain populations may very reasonably advocate for their specific circumstance when it comes to resisting going back “to normal”. I hope that makes sense.