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Kind of a trend... I don't think Apple realizes that as well. Photos? Tons of frameworks for scanning my photos and adding 3d custom emojis to Messages? They a

by hbbio 5y ago

Kind of a trend... I don't think Apple realizes that as well. Photos? Tons of frameworks for scanning my photos and adding 3d custom emojis to Messages? They also lead the way for vulnerabilities like the latest NSO. What if we could just have a bare OS with all core frameworks and let users decide what to install. If nothing else for reducing the attack surface.

genewitch 5y ago
>>> bare OS >> Arch > but systemd Gentoo still "officially" supports openRC, if "systemd" is a pain point, as it is for me and several of my datacenter populating friends.
coldpie 5y ago
> What if we could just have a bare OS with all core frameworks and let users decide what to install. My friend, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arch_Linux https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arch_Linux
- least 5y ago
  There's a very vocal minority that would object to suggesting that Arch Linux is bare, especially since it comes packaged with systemd.
  - jagger27 5y ago
    If systemd is such a deal breaker, there's always Artix. https://artixlinux.org/ https://artixlinux.org/
    - least 5y ago
      I don't find it to be a deal breaker, just saying that systemd is at least controversial enough for such things to exist and that it might disqualify Arch from being a system that qualifies as one that is a "bare OS with all core frameworks" to some. It's incredibly subjective.
  - coldpie 5y ago
    This is not an interesting argument to have.
    - least 5y ago
      That's a matter of taste, but it's certainly not an unreasonable argument to make if you're purporting that Arch is such a system, which is implied by your post.
- hbbio 5y ago
  For my device, I'm waiting patiently for (and backing+) Asahi. The team ability and friendliness is maybe unmatched in the oss world. https://asahilinux.org/ https://asahilinux.org/ + https://asahilinux.org/support/ https://asahilinux.org/support/

by hbbio 5y ago

genewitch 5y ago

>>> bare OS >> Arch > but systemd Gentoo still "officially" supports openRC, if "systemd" is a pain point, as it is for me and several of my datacenter populating friends.

coldpie 5y ago

> What if we could just have a bare OS with all core frameworks and let users decide what to install. My friend, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arch_Linux https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arch_Linux

least 5y ago
There's a very vocal minority that would object to suggesting that Arch Linux is bare, especially since it comes packaged with systemd.
- jagger27 5y ago
  If systemd is such a deal breaker, there's always Artix. https://artixlinux.org/ https://artixlinux.org/
  - least 5y ago
    I don't find it to be a deal breaker, just saying that systemd is at least controversial enough for such things to exist and that it might disqualify Arch from being a system that qualifies as one that is a "bare OS with all core frameworks" to some. It's incredibly subjective.
- coldpie 5y ago
  This is not an interesting argument to have.
  - least 5y ago
    That's a matter of taste, but it's certainly not an unreasonable argument to make if you're purporting that Arch is such a system, which is implied by your post.
hbbio 5y ago
For my device, I'm waiting patiently for (and backing+) Asahi. The team ability and friendliness is maybe unmatched in the oss world. https://asahilinux.org/ https://asahilinux.org/ + https://asahilinux.org/support/ https://asahilinux.org/support/