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In what way have they made an actual attempt to solve the privacy issues? If they were actually trying to solve the privacy issues, the precise location would

In what way have they made an actual attempt to solve the privacy issues? If they were actually trying to solve the privacy issues, the precise location would get more and more vague depending how far you are from the tag. If they were actually trying to solve the privacy issues they’d delay/throttle position updates. These things don’t solve any real problems, short of losing your keys/purse. If it’s attached to a stolen item, the police probably don’t care and confronting the thief is probably a great way to get killed or end up getting yourself arrested until the cops can sort out the he-said-she-said.

upbeat_general 5y ago
They made it notify users when they are in the presence of an AirTag as they move around (that isn’t their own AirTag). > These things don’t solve any real problems, short of losing your keys/purse In other words a very common and frustrating occurrence for many many people.
- MrDresden 5y ago
  Now if only they would extend that consideration to include the wast majority of people on this planet that do not own nor use any Apple products. How many Android users are being stalked without knowing about it? And yes, there are FOSS solutions on F-droid that partially solve this. But normal users wont know how to find them, and the onus is on Apple to supply an app with these kinds of features given that they are producing these trackers. /edit: I just now see mentions of an official Apple detector app that does just what I mentioned (had completely hone by me). While I'd rather that there were no trackers like these made, this will at least do for now. /edit2: It seems this official app requires users to actively scan for trackers rather than doing so from the background. That makes this a very weak attempt at appeasing the worries of non Apple users. Then the FOSS Airguard app is much better.
  - Schiendelman 5y ago
    At this point, your beef is with Google to scan in the background, not with Apple. Apple’s provided what they’re allowed to offer.
    - MrDresden 5y ago
      No, they haven't as there are other 3rd party applications on offer that do this better (see my recommendation for AirGuard). Honestly, your comment reads like it is written by an Apple fan who is incapable of empathising with others.
      - Schiendelman 5y ago
        AirGuard is riddled with reviews that say it doesn’t detect known devices.
        MrDresden 5y ago
        And with plenty of reviews saying it works. As per the author's own comments to one such review: > The app detects AirTags when they appear in their separated state i.e separated from any owner device for more than 15 minutes. Background processing on Samsung devices can also be severly borked at times due to custom policies from the OEM. Having thoroughly tested this my self, as well as looked over the code I am satisfied it does what it says on the can.
faeriechangling 5y ago
While I’m not super keen on this myself, if somebody stole something valuable enough to make or break my quality of life I would take a stab at repossessing it. If the police don’t care about the stolen item in the first place why would they care about me stealing it back? The thief thought it would be worth it to take the risk of stealing so why can’t I come to the same conclusion? People can lose things like their vehicle and consequently their jobs and consequently their families.

upbeat_general 5y ago

They made it notify users when they are in the presence of an AirTag as they move around (that isn’t their own AirTag). > These things don’t solve any real problems, short of losing your keys/purse In other words a very common and frustrating occurrence for many many people.

MrDresden 5y ago
Now if only they would extend that consideration to include the wast majority of people on this planet that do not own nor use any Apple products. How many Android users are being stalked without knowing about it? And yes, there are FOSS solutions on F-droid that partially solve this. But normal users wont know how to find them, and the onus is on Apple to supply an app with these kinds of features given that they are producing these trackers. /edit: I just now see mentions of an official Apple detector app that does just what I mentioned (had completely hone by me). While I'd rather that there were no trackers like these made, this will at least do for now. /edit2: It seems this official app requires users to actively scan for trackers rather than doing so from the background. That makes this a very weak attempt at appeasing the worries of non Apple users. Then the FOSS Airguard app is much better.
- Schiendelman 5y ago
  At this point, your beef is with Google to scan in the background, not with Apple. Apple’s provided what they’re allowed to offer.
  - MrDresden 5y ago
    No, they haven't as there are other 3rd party applications on offer that do this better (see my recommendation for AirGuard). Honestly, your comment reads like it is written by an Apple fan who is incapable of empathising with others.
    - Schiendelman 5y ago
      AirGuard is riddled with reviews that say it doesn’t detect known devices.
      - MrDresden 5y ago
        And with plenty of reviews saying it works. As per the author's own comments to one such review: > The app detects AirTags when they appear in their separated state i.e separated from any owner device for more than 15 minutes. Background processing on Samsung devices can also be severly borked at times due to custom policies from the OEM. Having thoroughly tested this my self, as well as looked over the code I am satisfied it does what it says on the can.

faeriechangling 5y ago

While I’m not super keen on this myself, if somebody stole something valuable enough to make or break my quality of life I would take a stab at repossessing it. If the police don’t care about the stolen item in the first place why would they care about me stealing it back? The thief thought it would be worth it to take the risk of stealing so why can’t I come to the same conclusion? People can lose things like their vehicle and consequently their jobs and consequently their families.